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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Korean Labor Standards Act
Article 3 (Standards of Working Conditions)
The working conditions provided herein shall prescribe the minimum standards and the parties to employment relations, therefore, shall not reduce the working conditions under the pretext of compliance with this Act.
Article 15 (Labor Contract contrary to This Act)
(1) A labor contract which establishes working conditions which do not meet the standards provided for in this Act shall be null and void to that extent.
(2) Those conditions invalidated in accordance with the provisions of paragraph (1) shall be governed by the standards provided in this Act.
Article 60 (Annual Paid Leave)
(1) An employer shall grant 15 days' paid leave to a worker who has registered not less than 80 percent of attendance during one year.
(2) An employer shall grant one day's paid leave per month to a worker whose consecutive service period is shorter than one year, if the worker has offered work without an absence throughout a month.
(3) In case an employer grants a worker paid leave for the first one year of his/her service, the number of leave days shall be 15 including the leave prescribed in paragraph (2), and if the worker has already used the leave prescribed in paragraph (2), the number of used leave days shall be deducted from the 15 days of leave.
(4) After the first year of service, an employer shall grant one day's paid leave for each two years of consecutive service in addition to the leave prescribed in paragraph (1) to a worker who has worked consecutively for 3 years or more. In this case, the total number of leave days including the additional leave shall not exceed 25.
(5) An employer shall grant paid leave pursuant to paragraphs (1) through (4) upon request of a worker, and shall pay ordinary wages or average wages prescribed in employment rules or other regulations during the period of leave. However, the leave period concerned may be changed, in case granting the leave as requested by the worker might cause a serious impediment to the operation of the business.
(6) In applying paragraphs (1) through (3), a period falling under any of the following sub-paragraphs shall be considered a period of attendance :
1. A period during which a worker is unable to work due to occupational injuries or diseases;
2. A period during which a pregnant woman does not work on maternity leave taken pursuant to paragraphs (1) and (2) of Article 74.
(7) The leave referred to in paragraphs (1) through (4) shall be forfeited if not used within one year. However, this shall not apply in case where the worker concerned has been prevented from using the leave due to any cause attributable to the employer.
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Ttompatz: correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that red days don't have to be paid. If the school offers all national holidays (paid) and three extra days of vacation, that probably covers the twelve days required by law, depending on where the holidays fall during a given year. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Ttompatz: correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that red days don't have to be paid. If the school offers all national holidays (paid) and three extra days of vacation, that probably covers the twelve days required by law, depending on where the holidays fall during a given year. |
Nope.
Red days (statuary holidays) do have to be paid - presidential decree, are NOT "paid annual vacation" and are IN ADDITION to the holidays as mandated by the LSA.
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emmajuno
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreatimes: I don't think the school is being unreasonable if there was nothing in the contract about vacation. |
The school is being unreasonable as they are violating labour laws. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Koreatimes: I don't think the school is being unreasonable if there was nothing in the contract about vacation. |
You didn't even read the context I put that in. If they give 5 days vacation with 2 weekend days then I don't find it unreasonable. By weekend, I meant 2 days that you regularly don't work, it doesn't have to be Saturday and Sunday.
Read the full thread before replying, don't just attack someone based on one sentence which could be taken out of context and not represent what the messenger intended. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Koreatimes: I don't think the school is being unreasonable if there was nothing in the contract about vacation. |
You didn't even read the context I put that in. If they give 5 days vacation with 2 weekend days then I don't find it unreasonable. By weekend, I meant 2 days that you regularly don't work, it doesn't have to be Saturday and Sunday.
Read the full thread before replying, don't just attack someone based on one sentence which could be taken out of context and not represent what the messenger intended. |
I did read the whole thread, and I wasn't attacking you. In this case we don't seem to know whether it was the school or the recruiter that was lying (although, it does appear the school is violating labor law, which I didn't think was the case). |
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plchron
Joined: 26 Feb 2011 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Judo girl; you screwed up a little bit not getting vacation days set in stone. Try to negotiate, it doesn't say that you only get 2 days or 3 days in your contract.
They can't make you pay back anything, but if you give them warning of your imminent and early departure then they will illegally withhold the cost of your flight.
As to your pay; it sounds like the first calender month you worked for 2 weeks. You got a pro-rated amount for the time worked. On your last calender month at the 12 month mark you would have gotten your last 2 weeks of pay. Am I wrong about the pay? Did you work for a month and then only receive half of the money owed?
Leaving isn't as difficult as it sounds.If your getting screwed, Send your prints back to your national police and start getting the documents in order to pull a runner. DON'T TELL ANYONE AT WORK THAT YOU ARE THINKING OF LEAVING! |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| koreatimes wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Koreatimes: I don't think the school is being unreasonable if there was nothing in the contract about vacation. |
You didn't even read the context I put that in. If they give 5 days vacation with 2 weekend days then I don't find it unreasonable. By weekend, I meant 2 days that you regularly don't work, it doesn't have to be Saturday and Sunday.
Read the full thread before replying, don't just attack someone based on one sentence which could be taken out of context and not represent what the messenger intended. |
I did read the whole thread, and I wasn't attacking you. In this case we don't seem to know whether it was the school or the recruiter that was lying (although, it does appear the school is violating labor law, which I didn't think was the case). |
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| it does appear the school is violating labor law |
No it doesn't. It appears you are waving the typical legal slant which may not warrant it. Let's see what the school says first before we say they are violating labor law. Just because a law is made or referenced, doesn't make your assumptions more true. Facts are facts. |
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Judogrl
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:41 am Post subject: pay |
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Ok, I understand that part, it's just unfortunate that when I read the contract and it was worded in a strange manor, and I asked my recruiter, he told me 5 days, so I said ok, I would sign.
What do you think about the first two weeks of teaching being considered training and only getting paid 50%? |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| Utter nonsense, unless you agreed to it in your contract. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| training and only getting paid 50%? |
Do you feel you were "trained"? You should receive something for it at least. If not, plan your exit. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: Re: pay |
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| Judogrl wrote: |
Ok, I understand that part, it's just unfortunate that when I read the contract and it was worded in a strange manor, and I asked my recruiter, he told me 5 days, so I said ok, I would sign.
What do you think about the first two weeks of teaching being considered training and only getting paid 50%? |
Unless it was in the contract it is violation of the law and you would win a labor board claim.
IF it was in the contract and you agreed to it then you have no claim.
Also be aware that until you reach the 6-month mark of your contract, under labor law, you are considered to be a probationary employee AND can be terminated without cause and without notice.
If you file a labor board claim it will probably cost you your job.
Good news is that you have up to 2 years to file the grievance to get your money back providing the employer doesn't have a valid counter claim.
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Judogrl
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:15 am Post subject: Labor board |
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| I am planning on going in and talking to my boss tomorrow about this. My first day, another teacher explained to me what to do, and then I was sent into the class. No other teacher was there to help, and I told the students my name and then we got started working on the days assignments. There are other things in my contract that have been broken. I was supposed to be guaranteed 3 days orientation, that did not happen. I'm even supposed to have a kitchen table which I do not. My boss is also taking out 3.3% in taxes. I read in one of the threads that, that makes me a contractor? Does anyone know about that? |
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jrwhite82

Joined: 22 May 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:29 am Post subject: Re: Labor board |
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| Judogrl wrote: |
| I am planning on going in and talking to my boss tomorrow about this. My first day, another teacher explained to me what to do, and then I was sent into the class. No other teacher was there to help, and I told the students my name and then we got started working on the days assignments. There are other things in my contract that have been broken. I was supposed to be guaranteed 3 days orientation, that did not happen. I'm even supposed to have a kitchen table which I do not. My boss is also taking out 3.3% in taxes. I read in one of the threads that, that makes me a contractor? Does anyone know about that? |
Do you have health insurance and pension? Is your boss paying 50%? Have you checked to make sure he is actually paying his share?
How many employees are at your school? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Does your contract refer to you as an employee or as a contractor?
Note: the general consensus around here is that the contractor thing is illegal, but it's relevant to your employer's interpretation of the contract. |
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