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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:42 am Post subject: console or pc? |
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hi, new to gaming. well haven't owned a console or a Pc gaming machine for 10 years.
so I am totally out of touch.
which is the better route to take.
buy a console with controllers and add ons etc.. for x amount of dollars
or buy a gaming PC?
umm, what kind of games will I play? will I be playing alone?
I will be playing with my kid, but mostly just me. so if got a pc, I would need joysticks or controllers which can plug in so we can both play.
games? don't have a clue
some bad ass games, would also like to play online multi games.
anyway, graphics wise, game price wise, risks of machine breaking down wise,
which is the better choice?
pros and cons of the choice.?
thanks.
ps. also I am not in a hurry, as the Ps4 is coming out next fall, would it be wise to wait for that? or is a PC just the way to go? |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Graphics-wise, PC is best.....as long as you get a good one.
If you don't mind piracy, PC is best.
For kids and ease of operation, console is best. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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I would say an Xbox 360 + Xbox Live + Kinect would be great for you and your kid.
For your needs, I think console would be better. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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eamo wrote: |
Graphics-wise, PC is best.....as long as you get a good one.
If you don't mind piracy, PC is best.
For kids and ease of operation, console is best. |
I have no problem with piracy.
I don't mind spending money on a good graphics card
I think the price of a 360 and a gaming pc is pretty much similar maybe the pc is 20% more.
prices of cards and mother boards are really cheap now.
can I set up my PC next to my TV and have controllers coming out of the pc like a console? do all the joysticks plug into the pc no problems? |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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fosterman wrote: |
eamo wrote: |
Graphics-wise, PC is best.....as long as you get a good one.
If you don't mind piracy, PC is best.
For kids and ease of operation, console is best. |
I have no problem with piracy.
I don't mind spending money on a good graphics card
I think the price of a 360 and a gaming pc is pretty much similar maybe the pc is 20% more.
prices of cards and mother boards are really cheap now.
can I set up my PC next to my TV and have controllers coming out of the pc like a console? do all the joysticks plug into the pc no problems? |
Yeah. XBOX is by Microsoft so lots of XBOX joysticks and controllers are Windows compatible. This is what I do with my Home Theater PC. It sits under our 47'' TV and has a good graphics card so it's very multi-purpose. You can use it for gaming, HD video, internet, music, DVD player......anything really......so I think it's more versatile than a console.....except for the PS3 having a blu-ray player....but then you have to start buying blu-ray discs!
If you get the PC make sure the graphics card has HDMI out....then you can connect to the TV with just one cord. Very easy.
One downside is that decent looking HTPC cases are a bit expensive. You probably won't find one that you like the look of for under 150,000. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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eamo wrote: |
fosterman wrote: |
eamo wrote: |
Graphics-wise, PC is best.....as long as you get a good one.
If you don't mind piracy, PC is best.
For kids and ease of operation, console is best. |
I have no problem with piracy.
I don't mind spending money on a good graphics card
I think the price of a 360 and a gaming pc is pretty much similar maybe the pc is 20% more.
prices of cards and mother boards are really cheap now.
can I set up my PC next to my TV and have controllers coming out of the pc like a console? do all the joysticks plug into the pc no problems? |
Yeah. XBOX is by Microsoft so lots of XBOX joysticks and controllers are Windows compatible. This is what I do with my Home Theater PC. It sits under our 47'' TV and has a good graphics card so it's very multi-purpose. You can use it for gaming, HD video, internet, music, DVD player......anything really......so I think it's more versatile than a console.....except for the PS3 having a blu-ray player....but then you have to start buying blu-ray discs!
If you get the PC make sure the graphics card has HDMI out....then you can connect to the TV with just one cord. Very easy.
One downside is that decent looking HTPC cases are a bit expensive. You probably won't find one that you like the look of for under 150,000. |
Can I use wireless controllers? the last thing I would want are wires running across the floor..
the Pc sounds like a good idea, I could play blue ray movies once downloaded, for media it sounds like a very versatile option.
yes, I would want a good looking case to go with my decor.
ok, I will start researching into what kind of pc I will need and the prices involved compared to ps3 or xbox. |
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Ibsen
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Graphics Wise: PC wins
Startup Price Wise: Console Wins
Game Price Wise: PC wins
Ease of fixing if broken down: PC wins
All in all I would say a PC is better in almost every aspect except having a more expensive initial cost. Consoles are also easier to use as well and have more kid friendly games... Plus kids enjoy things like the Kinect or the Wii, where body movements are involved.
From your original post though, I would say a PC is what you would be looking for. Building your own would save you a bunch of money too, not to mention you know what parts are going in. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ibsen wrote: |
Graphics Wise: PC wins
Startup Price Wise: Console Wins
Game Price Wise: PC wins
Ease of fixing if broken down: PC wins
All in all I would say a PC is better in almost every aspect except having a more expensive initial cost. Consoles are also easier to use as well and have more kid friendly games... Plus kids enjoy things like the Kinect or the Wii, where body movements are involved.
From your original post though, I would say a PC is what you would be looking for. Building your own would save you a bunch of money too, not to mention you know what parts are going in. |
To add to this post, it really depends on what games you play. Many games are ported to the PC from console, and that really takes away from the user experience.
If you like RTS, RPG, FPS, and games like that, go PC.
If you are more into Sports, Action, platforming, rhythm games, motion games, etc... go with console.
Or, why not have both? Get a mid-level gaming rig and buy an Xbox 360. You can get them pretty cheap nowadays on Craigslist and the Buy/Sell forum here. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the replies.
can anyone recommend some parts, GPU, motherboard for me???
I know a little about pcs, and have been to yongsan and built 2 pcs before
but they were not game orientated. so when it comes to graphic cards I really have no idea. I will start looking at game forums too
I like to play RPG games, Alan wake, mafia, Batman, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception,
games like this for myself.
and with my friends perhaps some fifa or hockey.
but mostly it's for me.. so mostly Rpg.
my teenage daughter likes Rpg games too.
my son is only 2, so I am not planning on introducing him to gaming for a couple years yet, so I like the idea of the PC option because I can play movies through it, and kids games from yahoo etc..
I've been looking at HTPC units, WOW never knew they looked like that. they look cool, different to PC towers, real nice.
but I don't think a HTPC case is the way to go, over priced and small inside so heat and space might be an issue. so I think a larger tower case will be the way to go.
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smogdonkey
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:01 am Post subject: |
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To be honest, it all comes down to whether you want to be sitting on your couch looking at your HDTV or sitting at your computer desk looking at your screen. Yes, you could hook things up to your TV or play at TV-dinner desk on your couch, but it's just a different kind of gaming. Pick up a controller and press start or install drivers, adjust resolution, install peripherals you like, update... etc.
And I have to disagree about FPS games being better on a PC. Yes, it is easier to be accurate if you've been playing on a mouse and keyboard for years, but it's hard to argue with the success of BF3 and MW3 this year. Look at sales charts on the consoles... off the charts. I personally just prefer playing with friends in the room from the comfort of my couch.
Like everyone on this list, I am biased, and I admit I prefer console games. I work for a website that reviews games of all formats, and I'm being paid to get into PC games more (specifically, MMO games, at the moment). It's a struggle, but the ridiculous (in a good way) rig they've put on my desk does make it a bit more bearable.
The annoying thing for me with PC games has always been that my rig always needs to be updated or completely replaced if I want to play the AAA titles that come out every few years (at least to play them the way they were meant to be played).
Do games played on $2000 rigs look better than console games? Absofreakinlutely. Is that enough to get me off my couch? Not unless I'm paid nicely to do so . |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005 Location: Boo-sahn
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:44 am Post subject: |
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fosterman wrote: |
Can I use wireless controllers? the last thing I would want are wires running across the floor... |
Yes, you can.
With 360 wireless, u'd need at least the(2?) controller(s), the wireless receiver, and buy ur own batteries or buy some rechargeables and a kit...
http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?section_m=GAME&prod_c=449835&cate_c1=1393&cate_c2=1396&cate_c3=1411&cate_c4=0
http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?section_m=GAME&prod_c=437817&cate_c1=1393&cate_c2=1396&cate_c3=1411&cate_c4=0
or, u could get the 360 recharge kit and an extra battery to go with the controllers(but, now ur close to $200 just for the controllers)...
http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=154978&cate_c1=1393&cate_c2=1396&cate_c3=1411&cate_c4=
http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?section_m=GAME&prod_c=147074&cate_c1=1393&cate_c2=1396&cate_c3=1411&cate_c4=0
There r other options, of course.
Just b aware that the most recent hockey for the pc is nhl '09. from what i can tell, latest COD has no 360 controller support. many games do, though...
http://www.giantbomb.com/xbox-360-controller-support-for-pc/92-2465/games/? (<--- not really up-to-date. latest assassin's creed, potter lego, disney universe and many more working fine) |
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Ibsen
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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fosterman wrote: |
can anyone recommend some parts, GPU, motherboard for me???
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What's your budget? For a solid gaming rig that can play most games out right now (though some not at Ultra Settings) I would Get:
CPU: i5 2500K (OC to 4ghz on stock voltage)
Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212+/EVO
Mobo: ASUS p8z68-v lx or ASRock gen3 extreme3 z68.
GPU: Radeon 6870
RAM: Gskill Ripjaws X-series 8GB DDR3 1600mhz
PSU: OCZ ZS Series 750W 80+Bronze
Case: Antex 300 Black
It would run you about $650 - $700 US, before the OS, case fans, CD/DVD Drive, or any other expansion slot parts you want. After all that you could be looking at around $800 US. Definitely worth it though, plus it is fairly future proof since all the parts can be upgraded further, such as Crossfiring/Overclocking the GPU in a few years or further overclocking the 2500K. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ibsen wrote: |
fosterman wrote: |
can anyone recommend some parts, GPU, motherboard for me???
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What's your budget? For a solid gaming rig that can play most games out right now (though some not at Ultra Settings) I would Get:
CPU: i5 2500K (OC to 4ghz on stock voltage)
Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212+/EVO
Mobo: ASUS p8z68-v lx or ASRock gen3 extreme3 z68.
GPU: Radeon 6870
RAM: Gskill Ripjaws X-series 8GB DDR3 1600mhz
PSU: OCZ ZS Series 750W 80+Bronze
Case: Antex 300 Black
It would run you about $650 - $700 US, before the OS, case fans, CD/DVD Drive, or any other expansion slot parts you want. After all that you could be looking at around $800 US. Definitely worth it though, plus it is fairly future proof since all the parts can be upgraded further, such as Crossfiring/Overclocking the GPU in a few years or further overclocking the 2500K. |
800?
emm that's ok I guess. I want to play crysis2,The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception.
so if I can get a system cheaper I would prefer it.
possible to get a system for say 500-600? which could play it?
or is 800 the threshold? |
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Ibsen
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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fosterman wrote: |
800?
emm that's ok I guess. I want to play crysis2,The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception.
so if I can get a system cheaper I would prefer it.
possible to get a system for say 500-600? which could play it?
or is 800 the threshold? |
500-600 is definitely possible for those games. The only problem with cutting your budget down to 500-600 is you have to sacrifice a lot to save a little. Reducing your budget down to 600 will probably remove the possibility of getting an i5 2500k cpu in your build, which is arguably the best gaming processor for the money to date. You would probably have to settle for an AMD, maybe a 970BE which is a great cpu, but really can't stack up when compared to the 2500k.
You would also need to find a different motherboard, probably a cheaper one, since both of those I recommended are LGA 1155 sockets which are for intel cpus. You would need one with an AM3 socket for the AMD cpu.
Can you cut costs in other areas? Maybe reuse an old HDD? Obtain a copy of the OS from other sources? Those cuts alone would save around $150 off the $800 pricetag. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say 800,000 is the threshold for a mid-range gaming PC that you'll be happy to own.....go much lower and you'll find yourself having to lower the settings in some games which I hate having to do.
As Ibsen suggested, you could get cheaper AMD stuff which will likely overclock very well so you can save money that way. A 130,000 AMD quad-core can be easily overclocked to 3.4 - 3.6ghz which is plenty to run any game out there. AMD mobo's are cheaper too.....decent ones start at around 90,000.
Gkill RAM is cheap as hell....8GB = 80,000
Of course you can't skimp on the graphics card. The 6870 is a great buy at around 220,000.....so you could get the CPU, GPU, RAM and mobo for 520,000..........the other stuff doesn't really matter in terms of gaming power.....although it's a minor sin to buy a cheap PSU and case.....I'd spend 70,000 and 100,000 respectively. Then the aftermarket cooler....30,000.
So, yeah. Roughly 800,000 if you want to play Crysis 2, Skyrim etc.... |
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