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AlastairKirby
Joined: 29 Aug 2011
Location: UK
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Your friend is an idiot. But deportation for this seems harsh.
Could be possible they are just trying to scare him. Which is a good thing. He will certainly have learned his lesson.
Rolling a scooter is hardly a serious crime. You'd be angry if someone did it your scooter of course. But knowing that by pressing charges you'd lose the guy his job and get him deported? A fine, a slap on the wrist, and scaring the cr*p out of him is a suitable punishment.
But to get drunk enough to do that? People need to start learning that by getting THAT drunk they are putting themselves at risk. |
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murmanjake
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| Hope your friend gets screwed to and never allowed to teach here again. "Teachers" still in college party mode dont do stupid things like that. But that Korea's fault for setting such low standards. |
And this is why I admire ttompatz so much...
Must be hard to wade through all the crap here and still have something relevant and helpful to say. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Ok, so say he is fired and convicted of the crime. Maybe his visa is automatically cancelled, maybe it isn't? Should he miraculously find an employer willing to overlook the crime, would he be able to transfer his visa?
Thanks for the informative replies from those mature enough to differentiate between a question and a justification of actions. It truly is not me I am talking about, if it were I wouldn't see any harm in identifying myself. There isn't any reason to hide it. |
Too many ifs to make an accurate prediction but....
If it makes it to a Korean criminal court AND he is convicted he will be punished according to law then deported.
If it makes it to a Korean criminal court AND he is NOT convicted he may still lose his job (and sponsorship if he is on an E2). Depending on the police report (immigration is an arm of the MOJ and does access the files when a change of status is requested) he may or may not be allowed to transfer, keep his E2 or get an exit order.
IF immigration deports him at their expense (they pay the plane ticket) he will be barred (persona non grata) for up to 5 years and never get another work visa in Korea.
If he gets an exit order from immigration and leaves on his own (rather than deportation) he will not get barred but will (based on a criminal conviction) be unable to get an E2.
If he is on an F2/4/5 the rules are different but his visa is still at risk.
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Ttompatz, thanks for that bolt of clarity. For the umpteenth time, you rock. |
Indeed Ttom is very reliable in these matters. Then again some of us said pretty much the same thing.
Good luck to your friend anyway. |
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angsta
Joined: 11 Oct 2011
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If they have his passport details and fingerprints then he is screwed if it goes to court. If the case is dropped then he should be fine for a new visa. However it might be better to find out applying from outside of Korea.
I know I wouldn't want to face a Korean court, actually any court in Asia. If it looks like court time he should be on the first flight back to whatever backwater he crawled out from and count his blessings. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I hate criminal drunks. |
Yeah I don't have much sympathy either...
What I don't like however, is that a korean person probably would have gotten away with the same incident...with the excuse that..wait for it..."he was drunk". |
And you know this how, exactly?
Up to date on Korean arrest statistics are you? Spent a lot of time policing the beat with the local cops, or are you just making things up again? |
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Trip
Joined: 28 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| The Floating World wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| minos wrote: |
| I hate criminal drunks. |
Yeah I don't have much sympathy either...
What I don't like however, is that a korean person probably would have gotten away with the same incident...with the excuse that..wait for it..."he was drunk". |
And you know this how, exactly?
Up to date on Korean arrest statistics are you? Spent a lot of time policing the beat with the local cops, or are you just making things up again? |
Given the short or nonexistent penalties for rape that K men get away with, as reported regularly in the media, it's a good inductive conclusion. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Trip wrote: |
| The Floating World wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| minos wrote: |
| I hate criminal drunks. |
Yeah I don't have much sympathy either...
What I don't like however, is that a korean person probably would have gotten away with the same incident...with the excuse that..wait for it..."he was drunk". |
And you know this how, exactly?
Up to date on Korean arrest statistics are you? Spent a lot of time policing the beat with the local cops, or are you just making things up again? |
Given the short or nonexistent penalties for rape that K men get away with, as reported regularly in the media, it's a good inductive conclusion. |
I may be wrong, but generally shorter sentences and punishment is given if the offender pays the family of the abused.
It's greatly encouraged(it's 100% legal and verfied by the police) and the norm to pay some large settlement in lieu of hard punishment. My friend's uncle killed some one with his car. A very large settlement resulted in no severe punishment. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
| My friend's uncle killed some one with his car. A very large settlement resulted in no severe punishment. |
So how much is a human life worth? |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
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| My friend's uncle killed some one with his car. A very large settlement resulted in no severe punishment. |
So how much is a human life worth? |
$100k
Back in the 70s or 80s.
The family hopefully bought a building(and not a bunch of noraebangs). They're perhaps much much richer thanks to that money. |
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