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weso1
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 Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:10 pm Post subject: Kim Jung Ill is dead. |
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| CNN is reporting that KJI is dead. |
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Captain Corea
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itistime
Joined: 23 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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links?
Anyone believe it? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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check my edit
KCNA is reporting it |
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weso1
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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NoKo state news is reporting it. It's real.
Man, the poop is about to hit the fan. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| weso1 wrote: |
NoKo state news is reporting it. It's real.
Man, the poop is about to hit the fan. |
Its reported on the general discussion page as well and I'll ask you the same question I asked somone who made a similar comment. Why would you assume that? |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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South Korean Millitary has been put on emergency alert.
Only breaking update status via reuters, no actual report to quote or link to yet. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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I think this can play out a few ways (obviously).
-Nothing will change - at least nothing we see.
-He'll push for reforms and/or negotiations with neighbours
-He'll do something to cement his authority... perhaps a show of force.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16239693
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North Korean leader Kim Jong-il has died at the age of 69, state-run television has announced.
His death was announced in an emotional statement read out on national television.
The announcer, wearing black, said he had died on Saturday of physical and mental over-work.
The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Seoul says his death will cause huge shock waves across North Korea.
Kim Jong-il has been the leader of the impoverished communist country since the death of his father Kim Il-sung in 1994.
He suffered a stroke in 2008 and was absent from public view for several months.
His designated successor is believed to be his third son, Kim Jong-woon, who is thought to be in his late 20s. |
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carleverson
Joined: 04 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
I think this can play out a few ways (obviously).
-Nothing will change - at least nothing we see.
-He'll push for reforms and/or negotiations with neighbours
-He'll do something to cement his authority... perhaps a show of force.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16239693
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North Korean leader Kim Jong-il has died at the age of 69, state-run television has announced.
His death was announced in an emotional statement read out on national television.
The announcer, wearing black, said he had died on Saturday of physical and mental over-work.
The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Seoul says his death will cause huge shock waves across North Korea.
Kim Jong-il has been the leader of the impoverished communist country since the death of his father Kim Il-sung in 1994.
He suffered a stroke in 2008 and was absent from public view for several months.
His designated successor is believed to be his third son, Kim Jong-woon, who is thought to be in his late 20s. |
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So basically ANYTHING can happen? What a stupid post. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| carleverson wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
I think this can play out a few ways (obviously).
-Nothing will change - at least nothing we see.
-He'll push for reforms and/or negotiations with neighbours
-He'll do something to cement his authority... perhaps a show of force.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16239693
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North Korean leader Kim Jong-il has died at the age of 69, state-run television has announced.
His death was announced in an emotional statement read out on national television.
The announcer, wearing black, said he had died on Saturday of physical and mental over-work.
The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Seoul says his death will cause huge shock waves across North Korea.
Kim Jong-il has been the leader of the impoverished communist country since the death of his father Kim Il-sung in 1994.
He suffered a stroke in 2008 and was absent from public view for several months.
His designated successor is believed to be his third son, Kim Jong-woon, who is thought to be in his late 20s. |
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So basically ANYTHING can happen? What a stupid post. |
And your post is any better?
By all means, make your own predictions. Perhaps they'll prove to be more accurate than your predictions on the iPad. 
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Some video
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North Korea's state-run news agency, KCNA, urged people to unite behind the younger Kim.
"All party members, military men and the public should faithfully follow the leadership of comrade Kim Jong-un and protect and further strengthen the unified front of the party, military and the public," the news agency said. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't make the first move. Wait and see what happens. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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My guess and this is only a guess is that things will open up eventually. The son is more western. Logically he knows that they can't continue as isolationist as they have been.
I have a feeling we'll see more reforms, etc.
War won't happen. Very very little chance. If war was going to happen it would have happened long ago. The generals know that if war happens they lose and they lose their power. They've seen regime change, Arab Spring and they know they can not win. China won't support as they did decades ago. The last thing China wants is an American military fighting on or near its border.
In time things will open up. Its only a guess but I think it will happen. |
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weso1
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| sirius black wrote: |
| weso1 wrote: |
NoKo state news is reporting it. It's real.
Man, the poop is about to hit the fan. |
Its reported on the general discussion page as well and I'll ask you the same question I asked somone who made a similar comment. Why would you assume that? |
NK has been destabilizing for a while now. It accelerated since his stroke a few years back. It's been far more aggressive (see Cheonan and Yeonpyong island)
KJI spent decades learning from his father, KJU has maybe a year or two under his. The generals are not going to be happy taking orders from a 29 year old kid.
Kim Ill Sung earned respect (for his actions against the Japanese)
Kim Jung Ill demanded respect
Kim Jung Un has none of the above
There's going to be a power struggle for a while. I fear the NK people will suffer the most, especially as winter is coming on strong. There may be more brazen attacks on the South as generals compete for numbers and support. It could get ugly before it gets better.
The best we can hope for is that China (seeing this coming for quite some time now) has already swooped in and is managing the transfer. If China handles this, it could transition smoothly, and calmly. If China forces itself to be more involved in the day-to-day, we can see a gradual easing of the strangle hold on the country. China would much rather NK follow it's path, rather than the one NK has been on.
I never thought I'd say this: But China is our best hope for peace and stability  |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Wow!!
I think China wants the North to change to a market economy. I think that change will happen soon. I doubt they will back Kim Jung Un very far. The Kims were a creation of the U.S.S.R. It would help stabilaize the region if economic changes and opening up happened in the North. China does not want instability. A new regime is about to take power in China and their economy is in deep poo poo at this time.
Could see some fireworks up North. KIm Jung Un does not have the complete backing of the military. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| sirius black wrote: |
My guess and this is only a guess is that things will open up eventually. The son is more western. Logically he knows that they can't continue as isolationist as they have been.
I have a feeling we'll see more reforms, etc.
War won't happen. Very very little chance. If war was going to happen it would have happened long ago. The generals know that if war happens they lose and they lose their power. They've seen regime change, Arab Spring and they know they can not win. China won't support as they did decades ago. The last thing China wants is an American military fighting on or near its border.
In time things will open up. Its only a guess but I think it will happen. |
With the extreme power the boy could be tempted with, in addition to that no one around him he can honestly trust (they aren't improving the welfare of the state) I doubt there will be any change, even small. |
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