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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
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I'll take the advice of professional drivers and delivery drivers over casual commuters. After spending thousands of hours driving each year, they know what they're doing(even if they run red lights and break the rules).
They not brain dead retards with a death wish....you have to go to china to see those drivers.
Mind you, the truck drivers and bus drivers are much crazier. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
I'll take the advice of professional drivers and delivery drivers over casual commuters. After spending thousands of hours driving each year, they know what they're doing(even if they run red lights and break the rules).
They not brain dead retards with a death wish....you have to go to china to see those drivers.
Mind you, the truck drivers and bus drivers are much crazier. |
Just because someone does something stupid on a regular basis and doesn't die doesn't make them an expert, it makes them lucky.
Luck runs out eventually or you change.
I drove like a future organ donor in my early 20's, luckily I changed before I died or worse still killed someone.
I have driven for 22 years, 3 of which were in Korea. I covered 1200km in the last week, and I see a lot of temporary Koreans and many of them are "professional" drivers.
I love this country but there are people who drive like they no longer want me to continue enjoying it. Driver training needs work, everywhere including here. |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Case in point~ I was sitting at a stoplight today, and looking over to the left at a rather tall building. In front of this building was a man whom I watched rush into his car, quickly start it up. I happen to see a mother and her young son walking down the sidewalk and thought to myself "wow, I bet she will not even notice the brake lights light up on the car, or the white reverse lights" I also thought "I bet he will not even physically look back (turning the head around) but will use the mirror only.
The result, mother keeps walking, man backs out and runs over both mother and child. Honestly I sat horrified stuck in traffic as the mother was on the ground, halfway under the car, screaming and beating the heck out of the back of the car with one hand while covering her child with her body.
Luckily both mother and son seemed to be alright, I didn't get much time to look as I was forced to continue with the flow of traffic.
It's one thing that has really rubbed me the wrong way over my 7 years here. Koreans are all to happy to talk to me about how they have a type of "group" mentality and do things for the betterment of the group rather than for self benefit. I have yet to see ANY similar type of mentality when driving. I cant help but shake my head at the guy whom has been driving in my same pack of cars for kilometers during rush hour, changing lanes many times just to get 1 car length ahead, only to get to the next intersection and suddenly realize he needs to cross 3-4 lanes of traffic to make a turn (thereby disturbing EVERY OTHER car on the road and disrupting the flow. The "I am king, I am important, I am a VIP" mentality so many drivers seem to have is what makes driving such a pain. |
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ssuprnova
Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: Saigon
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
It's one thing that has really rubbed me the wrong way over my 7 years here. Koreans are all to happy to talk to me about how they have a type of "group" mentality and do things for the betterment of the group rather than for self benefit. I have yet to see ANY similar type of mentality when driving. I cant help but shake my head at the guy whom has been driving in my same pack of cars for kilometers during rush hour, changing lanes many times just to get 1 car length ahead, only to get to the next intersection and suddenly realize he needs to cross 3-4 lanes of traffic to make a turn (thereby disturbing EVERY OTHER car on the road and disrupting the flow. The "I am king, I am important, I am a VIP" mentality so many drivers seem to have is what makes driving such a pain. |
Sometimes I wonder if it's the King syndrome or just a chronic lack of foresight... mothers letting their kids run around busy bike paths, hagwon managers putting out fires because they didn't check when the exam period starts, the MOE hiring thousands of foreign teachers and then firing all of them. At every single level there's widespread myopia and unwillingness to think even a half-step ahead. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:17 am Post subject: |
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No, it's not a lack of foresight. It's simply a complete lack of the concept of "cause and effect." Korean teacher molests Korean student in Korea? The NETs must be the problem!
Want more examples? |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
I'll take the advice of professional drivers and delivery drivers over casual commuters. After spending thousands of hours driving each year, they know what they're doing(even if they run red lights and break the rules).
They not brain dead retards with a death wish....you have to go to china to see those drivers.
Mind you, the truck drivers and bus drivers are much crazier. |
Then take it from me, someone who has raced both cars and motorbikes professioanlly as well as having taken numerous advanced driving coursses, you know NAUGHT about what you talk.
I've known people who drive for a living (years of experience) who are some of the worst drivers I've ever had the misfortune to get in/on a moving vehicle with.
Just because someone drives for a living doesn't mean they are a professional. Most of them have bad driving habbits that they keep doing all their driving lives.
A professioanl driver is someone who has actually taken the time to study and get some sort of certification from a recognised organization, like advanced driving courses I mentioned earlier.
You'd expect someone from any other profession calling themselves a professional to be trained wouldn't you? Why not people who drive for a living too? |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| BigBuds wrote: |
| minos wrote: |
I'll take the advice of professional drivers and delivery drivers over casual commuters. After spending thousands of hours driving each year, they know what they're doing(even if they run red lights and break the rules).
They not brain dead retards with a death wish....you have to go to china to see those drivers.
Mind you, the truck drivers and bus drivers are much crazier. |
Then take it from me, someone who has raced both cars and motorbikes professioanlly as well as having taken numerous advanced driving coursses, you know NAUGHT about what you talk.
I've known people who drive for a living (years of experience) who are some of the worst drivers I've ever had the misfortune to get in/on a moving vehicle with.
Just because someone drives for a living doesn't mean they are a professional. Most of them have bad driving habbits that they keep doing all their driving lives.
A professioanl driver is someone who has actually taken the time to study and get some sort of certification from a recognised organization, like advanced driving courses I mentioned earlier.
You'd expect someone from any other profession calling themselves a professional to be trained wouldn't you? Why not people who drive for a living too? |
Let me explain it a bit better. I had some taxi driver friends and scooter delivery boy friends who lived under me. I lived near their hangout which had 50 or so taxi's at any given time of day. I can recognize many of them while cruising my neighborhood
They did driver riskier, but were far more practiced doing said risky maneuvers.
They didn't run red lights indiscriminately; they simply knew where they could safely get away with it if they felt like doing so. I learned from them very well about where to cut corners and take shortcuts.
I remember taking rural gangwon-do taxis. After driving up a mountain all day, those guys had drifting and sharp curves down pat.
They drove so violently, my friends would barf after taking a ride. However, the drivers had so much practice hitting those sharp mountain curves over the same roads that they didn't even blink an eye drifting into corners.
I'm not saying their safe drivers; but it's not like they're gambling with their life on the 2,000+ time they've driven the same roads. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| No, they're gambling with other people's lives. And they're not good, practiced drivers. They're simply bad, lucky drivers. |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Many taxi drivers use the unwritten rule of Korean driving: If you've started your maneuver, then you can finish it even if it is an inconvenience to others.
Putting on the flashing invincibility lights will cover your ass.
If a car pulls out in front of mine, while still a safe distance away, you can almost be sure that the car behind it will simply follow even if it is directly into the path of oncoming traffic.
You learn to yield, as many have yielded to me. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| No, they're gambling with other people's lives. And they're not good, practiced drivers. They're simply bad, lucky drivers. |
Bad, lucky drivers for over 5-10+ years? Ever notice how old some of these drivers are?
Unlike back home, taxi driving is a competitive job. If you get a couple of dents and scratches, your not gonna be a cab driver for long. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| No, they're gambling with other people's lives. And they're not good, practiced drivers. They're simply bad, lucky drivers. |
Bad, lucky drivers for over 5-10+ years? Ever notice how old some of these drivers are?
Unlike back home, taxi driving is a competitive job. If you get a couple of dents and scratches, your not gonna be a cab driver for long. |
You are looking at this in the wrong way. If I do something stupid and there is a 90% chance you will be okay but a 10% chance that it will be fatal, do you take the risk?
A good driver doesn't , and anyone who does is neither experienced nor good. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| Not to mention the destruction the bad but lucky drivers are leaving in their wake. |
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