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pikadoopoo
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:15 am Post subject: Re: Difficulty finding hagwon jobs because of dual citizensh |
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| pikadoopoo wrote: |
Some of you may know that most Korean-Americans born after May 1988 are not eligible for F4/E2 visas due to the new change in the dual citizenship law.
After speaking with a million consulates, I decided to apply for Korean citizenship about 2 months ago.
Fun fact: Avalon failed me after my interview because they don't hire dual citizens.
Anyways, I applied for a job at a YBM branch (not ECC) and they sent me a contract to sign and everything. I don't know if they're aware of my dual citizenship, but I clearly stated it on my resume. The director (completely fluent in English) who interviewed me had my resume in her hands the whole time, so I'm hoping they're OK with it.
I mentioned again that I was a dual citizen to the official coordinator (not director), and I don't know if it's the language barrier, but it seems like she thinks I'm an F4 visa holder... I signed the contract and the coordinator told me to send her some documents required for F4 holders, like my FBI check and diploma. I'm just gonna send in my things and see what happens.
Should I be worrying? I'm thinking about calling them and explaining my situation to them, but then I'll have the risk of possibly losing this amazing job. (Higher pay than most noob jobs, good hours, Seoul, etc). But if I don't say anything and just go over to Korea, they might fire me on the spot... 
I could have applied for an E2 at the consulate without mentioning my Korean heritage, but my middle name is Korean. Hah. |
The national police check and degree copy are (correctly, will be - in early 2012) required of ALL teachers by the MOE.
Let them think you are F4. For them it makes no real difference F4 or dual citizen in terms of what they need to do.
Bottom line, in both cases you are a "native speaker" and they don't have visa issues to deal with.
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pikadoopoo
Joined: 19 May 2011
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:03 am Post subject: |
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I see. Thank you. 
I was just hoping I wasn't risking anything or getting myself into a similar situation I had with Avalon and a few other hagwons.
Avalon was a complete waste of my time. I clearly stated I was a dual citizen on my app. I spent the last half of my interview with one of the rudest coordinators: "We won't be able to provide you with housing, airfare, or other benefits." I mentioned how EPIK changed their policies to start accepting dual citizens and was told "That's different. We are a private institution" complete with an eye-roll.
I mean, why would you even interview me when I'm not eligible anyway? |
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ssuprnova
Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: Saigon
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:21 am Post subject: |
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edit: OK let me rephrase that. The Korean teachers that I know (who speak decent English) get 3.5-4M a month. They don't get the housing nor airfare benefits, but at that salary who cares.
Bottom line is, if you speak Korean reasonably well you should be applying as a Korean citizen. Also, there are at least a few hagwon chains that do not hire foreigners at all. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Two solutions:
1. Get a job at a small hagwon.
2. Get rid of your South Korean citizenship. It's way too sinful to maintain a SK citizenship. |
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pikadoopoo
Joined: 19 May 2011
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ssuprnova wrote: |
edit: OK let me rephrase that. The Korean teachers that I know (who speak decent English) get 3.5-4M a month. They don't get the housing nor airfare benefits, but at that salary who cares.
Bottom line is, if you speak Korean reasonably well you should be applying as a Korean citizen. Also, there are at least a few hagwon chains that do not hire foreigners at all. |
Oh, I see. Are these Korean teachers "Korean-Koreans" with majors in education, experienced, etc? I'm a noob, so I can't imagine receiving that much. Or maybe I'm just not looking in the right places.
Personally, I'd like to start kinda small and would prefer housing because I'm completely new to Korea. Maybe after a year or two when I'm more financially stable, I'll start applying as a "real" Korean citizen. My Korean is also pretty fluent, so I've thought about doing non-teaching jobs that are actually related to my major.
Nohope, I've definitely thought about renouncing my citizenship to get an F4... Still need some time to think if that's really the way to go... I'll look into the smaller hagwons once I'm actually in Korea.
Thanks everyone. |
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