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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans (what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?) . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. Immersing myself further into the culture is not the solution. I do, however, appreciate the time that some of you put into your contributions. They will likely help another individual. Happily, threads about one person's unfortunate situation can be helpful to others. Myself, I would dearly like to find employment with a foreign company; in other words, with a non-Korean employer.
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans (what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?) . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. Immersing myself further into the culture is not the solution. I do, however, appreciate the time that some of you put into your contributions. They will likely help another individual. Happily, threads about one person's unfortunate situation can be helpful to others. Myself, I would dearly like to find employment with a foreign company; in other words, with a non-Korean employer.
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Go home, get qualified, get a job and become an intra-company transferee to the country of your choice. There are lots of them out there and they do quite well for themselves.
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans (what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?) . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. Immersing myself further into the culture is not the solution. I do, however, appreciate the time that some of you put into your contributions. They will likely help another individual. Happily, threads about one person's unfortunate situation can be helpful to others. Myself, I would dearly like to find employment with a foreign company; in other words, with a non-Korean employer.
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how on earth can you dislike a language you don't know? and you're right. talking to people with the highest iq per capita (for a country) who have seen their country change from mud patties to a sprawling metropolitan wonder in a span of 50 years probably would be relegated to banter about kimchi.
good luck getting that job, methink it's going to be quite out of your reach and that's NOT me being sarcastic. immersing yourself into the culture IS part of the solution but you seem a bit too far gone to understand that.
for example during my 3 interviews for my job i was asked if i liked to drink, if i smoked, if i liked korean food, and what i thought about korea, amongst a bevy of other similar questions. think that was just them making small talk? get a clue. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Are there any other jobs in Korea other than teaching. |
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I've taught at public school, hogwans, unikwons...and I'm so tired of the #$%^& that inevitably accompanies teaching in Korea. Too much stress. I dearly want to leave Korea, but I'm in a long-term relationship with a wonderful woman. If I must stay in Korea, I need to get out of teaching English. It's not that I dislike teaching. It's the politics of teaching in Korea, co-teacher conflicts, the E-2 visa nonsense, and such that wears me down.
Has anyone successfully made the transition from teaching to "not teaching" in Korea? How exactly did you do it? Do you enjoy what you are doing?
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If your skillset is more then speaking fluent English there are more jobs out there that you can imagine. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010 Location: kOREA
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:01 am Post subject: |
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I've worked outside of teaching while still on an E-2.
From talking to Corporate CEOs of MNC in Korea(I know some):
Visa
It sucks, but getting the proper visa is hard. For example, I work for a trading company part time. The owner treats me like a son. He'd love to sponsor a visa but there is NO chance in hell of that happening unless he can hire me as English language support under an e-2.
Every non-teaching foriegner I've met except for 3 were hired from outside.
The visa for transferring an employee from an American branch to the korean branch is EASY.
Hence all the internal transfers.
I've only met a journalist, a women who taught corporate private lessons, and married folk who made the transfer. Others actually were raised here or are part Korean. Kyopos do alot of work due to easier visa.
One American CEO suggested I try to get army contractor jobs.
If your dead serious about staying here, that would be your best bet. |
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Wiltern
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
| Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans (what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?) . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. |
Yeah right...of the Koreans I've met, we sit around for hours talking about kimchi and Dokdo. You're a moron. I really don't understand people like you who come to foreign country with your attitude. It's like a Nazi taking a job in Israel then complaining about it. The only conclusion I can come up with is that they must be such a big loser in their home country. Do yourself a favor and go home and don't come back.
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| Myself, I would dearly like to find employment with a ....with a non-Korean employer. |
I've got the perfect solution...go back to your home country...plenty of non-Korean employers there. And, you won't be surrounded by Koreans talking about kimchi and Dokdo. Or, are you such a loser that the best you can do in your home country is being a cashier at Wal-Mart? |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans ([i]what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?)[/i] . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. Immersing myself further into the culture is not the solution. I do, however, appreciate the time that some of you put into your contributions. They will likely help another individual. Happily, threads about one person's unfortunate situation can be helpful to others. Myself, I would dearly like to find employment with a foreign company; in other words, with a non-Korean employer.
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Thats nice to hear. Assuming your girlfriend or wife is Korean I am sure she feels all warm and fuzzy about the way you look down on her language, culture and on her people...wow. |
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proverbs
Joined: 28 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| Wiltern wrote: |
| Smithington wrote: |
| Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans (what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?) . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. |
Yeah right...of the Koreans I've met, we sit around for hours talking about kimchi and Dokdo. You're a moron. I really don't understand people like you who come to foreign country with your attitude. It's like a Nazi taking a job in Israel then complaining about it. The only conclusion I can come up with is that they must be such a big loser in their home country. Do yourself a favor and go home and don't come back.
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| Myself, I would dearly like to find employment with a ....with a non-Korean employer. |
I've got the perfect solution...go back to your home country...plenty of non-Korean employers there. And, you won't be surrounded by Koreans talking about kimchi and Dokdo. Or, are you such a loser that the best you can do in your home country is being a cashier at Wal-Mart? |
I agree! |
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pikadoopoo
Joined: 19 May 2011
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans (what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?) . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. Immersing myself further into the culture is not the solution. I do, however, appreciate the time that some of you put into your contributions. They will likely help another individual. Happily, threads about one person's unfortunate situation can be helpful to others. Myself, I would dearly like to find employment with a foreign company; in other words, with a non-Korean employer.
One can dream.  |
Thanks for the lols. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
| Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans ([i]what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?)[/i] . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. Immersing myself further into the culture is not the solution. |
You must be joking.
At the beginning of this semester I felt very stressed and I made a list of things that were stressing me out to try and work out some of the problems. I was surprised to find that work had a negligible effect on my stress levels with the number of other things that were much much worse. I suspect this may be the case for you as well. Your job is only a very small part of the problem but it's an easy scapegoat. Everyone hates work, right? |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
| Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans (what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?) . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. Immersing myself further into the culture is not the solution. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Smithington wrote:
Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans (what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?) . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. Immersing myself further into the culture is not the solution.
There are jobs here, just not for people like you
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Actually that's not true, I hang out at the British Embassy bar occasionally and the place is full of businessmen and embassy staff with attitudes exactly like the OP. |
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r122925
Joined: 02 Jun 2011
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Smithington wrote:
Oh well. I have zero interest in learning Korean (don't like the language), don't hang out with Koreans (what on earth would we take about? kimchi? Dokdo?) . As one might have detected from my OP, I don't particularly like it here. Immersing myself further into the culture is not the solution.
There are jobs here, just not for people like you
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Actually that's not true, I hang out at the British Embassy bar occasionally and the place is full of businessmen and embassy staff with attitudes exactly like the OP. |
I've met these types before and I think almost all of them have one thing in common... they didn't choose to come here. The embassy staff are sent by the Foreign Office and the businessmen by their companies. And it's understandable why they resent the place a bit when perhaps they were hoping to be transferred to a tropical paradise somewhere and they ended up in Seoul.
ESL teachers choose to come here and can leave at any time, which makes the OP all the more baffling. |
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optik404

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:54 am Post subject: |
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for F visa holders,
How high of a Korean level is needed to work outside of ESL?
Also, what documents should I prepare if I were to land a position at a company? I'm guessing the requirements aren't the same as an ESL Teacher. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:51 am Post subject: |
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for F visa holders,
How high of a Korean level is needed to work outside of ESL?
Also, what documents should I prepare if I were to land a position at a company? I'm guessing the requirements aren't the same as an ESL Teacher. |
Answer: it depends on the job you want and are qualified to do.
Documents?
Resume, Cover letter, relevant qualifications, references....
Also make sure that these companies can sponsor or that they hire foreign workers or you will apply for nothing. |
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