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EPIK Busan - Cutbacks imminent? 11/20 BMOE meeting
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number 6, avoid desk warming? Isn't that mandatory? I mean you can't go home but have to stay and desk warm through the vacation time. Doesn't make any sense. I'd say try to get along well enough with your co-workers, be prepared for classes, and be popular with your students. Shouldn't that fit the bill? So, glad, I never transferred to Busan or Seoul as I had originally wanted to do.
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18thchildofmymother



Joined: 19 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Number 6, avoid desk warming? Isn't that mandatory? I mean you can't go home but have to stay and desk warm through the vacation time. Doesn't make any sense. I'd say try to get along well enough with your co-workers, be prepared for classes, and be popular with your students. Shouldn't that fit the bill? So, glad, I never transferred to Busan or Seoul as I had originally wanted to do.


look at it again.

They state that they don't want you sitting at your desk doing nothing during the school year. That's what is meant. They don't want you to surf the net.. use your cellphone or chat online. Every single minute of your time should be used to constantly improving and perfecting your lesson plans, though I suspect they'd let you slide if you were pretending to learn Korean.

of course if such demands were applicable to Korean teachers, then all of them would be fired since their use of cellphones, online surfing and chatting beats any NET by a country mile.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

18thchildofmymother wrote:
Weigookin74 wrote:
Number 6, avoid desk warming? Isn't that mandatory? I mean you can't go home but have to stay and desk warm through the vacation time. Doesn't make any sense. I'd say try to get along well enough with your co-workers, be prepared for classes, and be popular with your students. Shouldn't that fit the bill? So, glad, I never transferred to Busan or Seoul as I had originally wanted to do.


look at it again.

They state that they don't want you sitting at your desk doing nothing during the school year. That's what is meant. They don't want you to surf the net.. use your cellphone or chat online. Every single minute of your time should be used to constantly improving and perfecting your lesson plans, though I suspect they'd let you slide if you were pretending to learn Korean.

of course if such demands were applicable to Korean teachers, then all of them would be fired since their use of cellphones, online surfing and chatting beats any NET by a country mile.
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Ya compiled the stats on this right? You have vast experience with KTs chatting more than NETS during deskwarming? Wink

Post the study, will be fascinating reading or wait, is that just your opinion?
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18thchildofmymother



Joined: 19 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
18thchildofmymother wrote:
Weigookin74 wrote:
Number 6, avoid desk warming? Isn't that mandatory? I mean you can't go home but have to stay and desk warm through the vacation time. Doesn't make any sense. I'd say try to get along well enough with your co-workers, be prepared for classes, and be popular with your students. Shouldn't that fit the bill? So, glad, I never transferred to Busan or Seoul as I had originally wanted to do.


look at it again.

They state that they don't want you sitting at your desk doing nothing during the school year. That's what is meant. They don't want you to surf the net.. use your cellphone or chat online. Every single minute of your time should be used to constantly improving and perfecting your lesson plans, though I suspect they'd let you slide if you were pretending to learn Korean.

of course if such demands were applicable to Korean teachers, then all of them would be fired since their use of cellphones, online surfing and chatting beats any NET by a country mile.
<

Ya compiled the stats on this right? You have vast experience with KTs chatting more than NETS during deskwarming? Wink

Post the study, will be fascinating reading or wait, is that just your opinion?


actually, yes, my eyes compiled the stats in my head...... At least in my school, which i'll grant you may be a special case.

and regarding chatting, the Koreans win this one by a country mile, especially with the women gathering around clucking like hens when the opportunity is there for a small group to gather, with "mmmmm" flying around like shrapnel. They do tend to use the Messenger Internet chat for contacting each other and school business rather than gossip. The clucking occurs when the group gathers.

Obviously this is dependent on the workload, there are most certainly times where the Korean teachers are massively stressed out, with tons of things to do, tons of stupid paperwork and the NET is immune from all this stuff.

bottom line is that I'm not noticeably less "professional" at my desk than most K teachers around me and I ensure it stays that way.

the Busan "list of demands" doesn't particularly upset me, though it's certainly insulting, a perfect item for the "S.N.I.P" list before I toss it into the garbage can.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good man.

Good luck out there.

If I were you however, I would start planning ahead for a move out of a PS job within the next couple of years. That program was always meant to be temporary and with budget crunching, it will be reduced or cut at some point.

Take care.
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18thchildofmymother



Joined: 19 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Good man.

Good luck out there.

If I were you however, I would start planning ahead for a move out of a PS job within the next couple of years. That program was always meant to be temporary and with budget crunching, it will be reduced or cut at some point.

Take care.


without a doubt. One of the reasons I'm at a PS was to have actual teaching experience on my resume if I choose to get licensed and teach at international schools. Should I reach that stage, it most certainly won't be in Korea.

My school just received money again for a NET and they want me to stay. However, I've been there for a a long time and there is no further utility of any kind by my staying there, or staying teaching in Korea which is why I'm almost certain I'm done when the contract expires.

Only reason to stay in Korea and teach now would be if I wanted to live here, which is most definitely NOT the case. Another might be if I simply needed this job which is once again not really the case. I'm fairly certain I can get a job back home, much less get a job teaching ESL in another country should my wanderlust spur me that way. As far as just "jobs" go though, , this Korean PS job is great. I'll probably never have such an easy, stress free job with tons of free time and vacation time EVER.

If it didn't mean living in Korea, and with 'korean culture', I'd be tempted to stay for a very very long time indeed.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swinewho wrote:
Of the 100 people only 70 will be offered new contracts.

They will have to 'audition' for the places by:

1. Making a lesson plan (hand written) in exam conditons in 40 minutes.

2. Watching a pre-recorded open class on TV and writing and hightlighting the strengths and weaknesses of it.

3. Answering 'what if' situations to a panel of 3 education officials - ex - what if 'a child started to choke in your lesson' what would you do?

4. Doing a traditional Korean dance in unison with the other NET tecahers, poor rhythm and/or balance will result in loss of points.....

The final score will be out of 100

30% for each of 1-3

10% for point 4.......


Certain groups pushing for more "qualified" and less "illegal" teachers. How the secret morphing influence of anti English spectrum has come along. I think I've finally figured it out. During 2009 and into 2010, with all the negative attention being given that group on here and even being picked up by the Western media, they decided to switch tactics.

To avoid "racism" charges, they have switched gears and changed tacts lobbying immigration hard for new changes about qualification, POE's and Legislative politicians to try to squeeze and drive foriegners out of their country. The 1980's generation is known to be Anti-American to the core from the 1980's bombing of the US cultural center in Busan to the 2002 US military protests. (Seems many Americans equally protested the virginia tech shooting in 2007.)

"Mission accomplished" and "Job well done" is a polite way while avoiding international criticismof trying to justify getting rid of foriegners and drive them out of the country. Teachers unions are left wing and guess which wing these newly elected councils are? Wow! So easy to connect the dots.
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, the list wasn't very subtle and some of the items could have been expressed better, but read between the lines. They're saying money is tight and scrutiny is high, so it's more important than ever to be professional and proactive so they can make a case to continue hiring you. Is that really unreasonable? It's absolutely not fair to compare yourself with what KTs are doing. Their jobs are not in danger.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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4. Doing a traditional Korean dance in unison with the other NET tecahers, poor rhythm and/or balance will result in loss of points.....


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