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Good Morning Pyeongyang - a video of PY first thing.

 
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Kimchifart



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:33 am    Post subject: Good Morning Pyeongyang - a video of PY first thing. Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Hqx3Xuv7s&feature=colike
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pegasus64128



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: Good Morning Pyeongyang - a video of PY first thing. Reply with quote

Kimchifart wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Hqx3Xuv7s&feature=colike

Thanks.
I wouldn't bother posting it on Dave's ESL though. Most people here have no soul. It's fascinating, and there's actually quite a lot of vids on youtu.be about NK now. It had all the smell of Communism - a trap designed to dis-empower people so that they can be crushed - everyone's equal - equally famished. It's just another pyramid scheme. Genuine socialist leaning leftist governments are fine with me - Sweden etc. There, the people really are equal in terms of rights. But Communism is the most right wing system imaginable.
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bekinseki



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well shot video. I wonder how long it took to make.

Most people would be surprised how colourful Pyongyang actually is; you can see a bit of that near the end but it's all desaturated, either intentionally or due to weather conditions. There is also a lot more vegetation in Pyongyang, and it's a surprisingly green place, from the park land everywhere to the gardens on everyone's balcony.
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sublunari



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The South could learn a thing or two from the North: for instance, having people clean cities. I'm guessing the laws are pretty harsh when it comes to littering, as well, at least in public places; Pyongyang also seems to have about as much traffic as a small town, and advertising is illegal, and people, like, don't own anything, so it's probably a lot easier to straighten up.

If the place isn't destroyed in some kind of horrible war I wonder what will happen to it after unification; it seems like a fairly unique, bizarre metropolis, and perhaps now that some Koreans are aware of how their rush to modernize has ruined the look of most of their cities, there may be some initiative to preserve it, rather than allow it to turn into yet another little Seoul.
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Kimchifart



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sublunari wrote:
The South could learn a thing or two from the North: for instance, having people clean cities. I'm guessing the laws are pretty harsh when it comes to littering, as well, at least in public places; Pyongyang also seems to have about as much traffic as a small town, and advertising is illegal, and people, like, don't own anything, so it's probably a lot easier to straighten up.

If the place isn't destroyed in some kind of horrible war I wonder what will happen to it after unification; it seems like a fairly unique, bizarre metropolis, and perhaps now that some Koreans are aware of how their rush to modernize has ruined the look of most of their cities, there may be some initiative to preserve it, rather than allow it to turn into yet another little Seoul.


I think their priorities of development will trump town planning. The place will have flashing noraebang signs within weeks.
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bekinseki



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sublunari wrote:
The South could learn a thing or two from the North: for instance, having people clean cities. I'm guessing the laws are pretty harsh when it comes to littering, as well, at least in public places; Pyongyang also seems to have about as much traffic as a small town, and advertising is illegal, and people, like, don't own anything, so it's probably a lot easier to straighten up.

If the place isn't destroyed in some kind of horrible war I wonder what will happen to it after unification; it seems like a fairly unique, bizarre metropolis, and perhaps now that some Koreans are aware of how their rush to modernize has ruined the look of most of their cities, there may be some initiative to preserve it, rather than allow it to turn into yet another little Seoul.


I was trying to figure out what exactly everyone's civic duties were up there, regarding cleaning the streets, which seemed to be something everyone had to commit a certain amount of time to. Couldn't imagine something like that happening down here, nor would I want to have mandatory grass-trimming time. But hey, if the countries open up, we'll have access to millions of custodians and landscapers.

One funny thing I saw in Pyongyang was livestock wandering here and there, just every once in a while a cow on the sidewalk with no clear view of where its owner was.

I really do hope they manage to preserve some of the buildings in Pyongyang. It would be interesting to see how some of their more communist/Juche buildings would be adapted. What would happen with Juche Tower, or Kumsusan Memorial Palace? Is there really anything you can put in there other than freeze-dried Kims?
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