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TheUrbanMyth
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Just stared straight ahead because of extreme social pressure to conform and protect the "pure blooded Korean race."
But a small little myeon with 10,000 people? Hell no! It ain't going to happen? I suppose there could be a disgraced "divorced" woman around but they wouldn't live in a myeon. It would be too small for apartment complexes.
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stevieg4ever
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Based on my experience and those of my friends, with some generalisations, in the countryside expect:
these are the challenges and difficulties
-less luxuries and western conveniences
-a lot less English, normally English is reserved for retirees, people in hagwons and institutes etc
-very few young people: lots of elementary and middle schoolers, lots of grandmas and grandpas, over 40s etc
-there probably wont be that many other westerners, this is open to dispute and may depend on where you are in the country, but anything over 4 and that would be considered a large community.
-travelling: unless you really like the quiet life, expect to do a lot of travelling as the onus will be on you to go out and explore and meet people, expect to spend a lot of time on buses, trains etc spending your weekends at home will feel like a weekend wasted
-expect to be spending a lot of time on your own as there wont be a great deal to do. There will probably be a gym, soccer fields in the schools, some small mountains, plenty of countryside. Also, things like surfing the web, reading and studying korean will be essential time killers; there wont be much in the way of trendy restaurants, stylish shops, luxury sports centers, meetups with other foreigners, cinemas etc
-basically, there are fewer options in almost every respect: food, entertainment, hobbies
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-Great chance to learn Korean. I recommend buying a good stock of study books and going from there.
-Economics. Put simply, you'll save a lot more and probably earn more as there is a greater demand for after school classes as hagwons are not that good and invariably won't have a NET. You also get a reimbursed flight if you re-sign, which SMOE doesn't have. There are more opportunities for private classes as well.
-Pace of life is better and less pressurised.
-Accommodation is miles better and often much, much more cheaper. Most people, outside of the provincial capitals, have a spacious and big apartment. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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Based on my experience and those of my friends, with some generalisations, in the countryside expect:
these are the challenges and difficulties
-less luxuries and western conveniences
-a lot less English, normally English is reserved for retirees, people in hagwons and institutes etc
-very few young people: lots of elementary and middle schoolers, lots of grandmas and grandpas, over 40s etc
-there probably wont be that many other westerners, this is open to dispute and may depend on where you are in the country, but anything over 4 and that would be considered a large community.
-travelling: unless you really like the quiet life, expect to do a lot of travelling as the onus will be on you to go out and explore and meet people, expect to spend a lot of time on buses, trains etc spending your weekends at home will feel like a weekend wasted
-expect to be spending a lot of time on your own as there wont be a great deal to do. There will probably be a gym, soccer fields in the schools, some small mountains, plenty of countryside. Also, things like surfing the web, reading and studying korean will be essential time killers; there wont be much in the way of trendy restaurants, stylish shops, luxury sports centers, meetups with other foreigners, cinemas etc
-basically, there are fewer options in almost every respect: food, entertainment, hobbies
positives
-Great chance to learn Korean. I recommend buying a good stock of study books and going from there.
-Economics. Put simply, you'll save a lot more and probably earn more as there is a greater demand for after school classes as hagwons are not that good and invariably won't have a NET. You also get a reimbursed flight if you re-sign, which SMOE doesn't have. There are more opportunities for private classes as well.
-Pace of life is better and less pressurised.
-Accommodation is miles better and often much, much more cheaper. Most people, outside of the provincial capitals, have a spacious and big apartment. |
Dead on. Especially movie theaters. Koreans like movies, but any small town or city is likely to have 1 or even 0 cinemas.
SMOE had flights unless it was removed.
Although economically, I found that living rurally sucked my money just as fast.
The constant commuting to seoul, hostels, jimjilbangs, late night taxis, gas and love motels wore down my salary almost as much as hardcore partying. Most guys will get a girl friend in a city. Love motels can cost 50-70k on weekends.
I had a friends with benefits that practically ate up $400+ a month in motel fees. In Seoul, you just go home. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| stevieg4ever wrote: |
Based on my experience and those of my friends, with some generalisations, in the countryside expect:
these are the challenges and difficulties
-less luxuries and western conveniences
-a lot less English, normally English is reserved for retirees, people in hagwons and institutes etc
-very few young people: lots of elementary and middle schoolers, lots of grandmas and grandpas, over 40s etc
-there probably wont be that many other westerners, this is open to dispute and may depend on where you are in the country, but anything over 4 and that would be considered a large community.
-travelling: unless you really like the quiet life, expect to do a lot of travelling as the onus will be on you to go out and explore and meet people, expect to spend a lot of time on buses, trains etc spending your weekends at home will feel like a weekend wasted
-expect to be spending a lot of time on your own as there wont be a great deal to do. There will probably be a gym, soccer fields in the schools, some small mountains, plenty of countryside. Also, things like surfing the web, reading and studying korean will be essential time killers; there wont be much in the way of trendy restaurants, stylish shops, luxury sports centers, meetups with other foreigners, cinemas etc
-basically, there are fewer options in almost every respect: food, entertainment, hobbies
positives
-Great chance to learn Korean. I recommend buying a good stock of study books and going from there.
-Economics. Put simply, you'll save a lot more and probably earn more as there is a greater demand for after school classes as hagwons are not that good and invariably won't have a NET. You also get a reimbursed flight if you re-sign, which SMOE doesn't have. There are more opportunities for private classes as well.
-Pace of life is better and less pressurised.
-Accommodation is miles better and often much, much more cheaper. Most people, outside of the provincial capitals, have a spacious and big apartment. |
Dead on. Especially movie theaters. Koreans like movies, but any small town or city is likely to have 1 or even 0 cinemas.
SMOE had flights unless it was removed.
Although economically, I found that living rurally sucked my money just as fast.
The constant commuting to seoul, hostels, jimjilbangs, late night taxis, gas and love motels wore down my salary almost as much as hardcore partying. Most guys will get a girl friend in a city. Love motels can cost 50-70k on weekends.
I had a friends with benefits that practically ate up $400+ a month in motel fees. In Seoul, you just go home. |
Yep! Big apartment, my a$$! That's a role of the dice. Overtime? Ha ha. Surely, you jest. When I lived in my small town, there was no overtime. The local education office only had me because of a grant and a quota. Would they spend their own money? He!! no. They were the cheapest SOB's, you'd never want to meet. They even tried to pull confucious crap on me. "Bow to me" type of BS! I just laughed in their faces and went home every day after lunch. (Luckily it was before the recession happened and they couldn't get rid of me. No one else would have come.)
Apartment was total run down small pile of moldy crap. Yeah, first year some girls wanted to test ride a foriegn guy in secret sneaking to my one room late at night. But long term, what would their family say? What would the community say? Second year, after those few girls had gone, that was it. Average girl on the street wouldn't be caught dead talking to a foriegner. Then, started travelling more. It sucked to travel for a girlfriend. (Time and expense.) Though K chicks in Seoul and some bigger cities are friendly.
Lately, am trying to save money. Although I live in a much bigger city, it's nto Seoul. But it's better than that place. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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(1) Yep! Big apartment, my a$$! That's a role of the dice. Overtime? Ha ha. Surely, you jest. When I lived in my small town, there was no overtime. The local education office only had me because of a grant and a quota. Would they spend their own money? He!! no. They were the cheapest SOB's, you'd never want to meet. They even tried to pull confucious crap on me. "Bow to me" type of BS! I just laughed in their faces and went home every day after lunch. (Luckily it was before the recession happened and they couldn't get rid of me. No one else would have come.)
(2) Apartment was total run down small pile of moldy crap. Yeah, first year some girls wanted to test ride a foriegn guy in secret sneaking to my one room late at night. But long term, what would their family say? What would the community say? Second year, after those few girls had gone, that was it. Average girl on the street wouldn't be caught dead talking to a foriegner. Then, started travelling more. It sucked to travel for a girlfriend. (Time and expense.) Though K chicks in Seoul and some bigger cities are friendly.
Lately, am trying to save money. Although I live in a much bigger city, it's nto Seoul. But it's better than that place. |
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1. Roll of the dice? Maybe...but all the rooms I've had in rural areas were 2 BR ones...this current one even has a half decent living room as well. As for OT that should come out of the overall grant for you...not out of the school's pocket...seems like somebody was pocketing the difference there.
2. As you yourself found there's always a few girls willing to try out the foreigner...sometimes it clicks and sometimes it doesn't. Besides my humble self I know at least two foreigners who met (and married) girls in small towns...never heard of either community giving a darn. |
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Weigookin74
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(1) Yep! Big apartment, my a$$! That's a role of the dice. Overtime? Ha ha. Surely, you jest. When I lived in my small town, there was no overtime. The local education office only had me because of a grant and a quota. Would they spend their own money? He!! no. They were the cheapest SOB's, you'd never want to meet. They even tried to pull confucious crap on me. "Bow to me" type of BS! I just laughed in their faces and went home every day after lunch. (Luckily it was before the recession happened and they couldn't get rid of me. No one else would have come.)
(2) Apartment was total run down small pile of moldy crap. Yeah, first year some girls wanted to test ride a foriegn guy in secret sneaking to my one room late at night. But long term, what would their family say? What would the community say? Second year, after those few girls had gone, that was it. Average girl on the street wouldn't be caught dead talking to a foriegner. Then, started travelling more. It sucked to travel for a girlfriend. (Time and expense.) Though K chicks in Seoul and some bigger cities are friendly.
Lately, am trying to save money. Although I live in a much bigger city, it's nto Seoul. But it's better than that place. |
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1. Roll of the dice? Maybe...but all the rooms I've had in rural areas were 2 BR ones...this current one even has a half decent living room as well. As for OT that should come out of the overall grant for you...not out of the school's pocket...seems like somebody was pocketing the difference there.
2. As you yourself found there's always a few girls willing to try out the foreigner...sometimes it clicks and sometimes it doesn't. Besides my humble self I know at least two foreigners who met (and married) girls in small towns...never heard of either community giving a darn. |
All I can say is when I read that thread "Life in Seoul in the 90's", it described my country town in the late 2000's. Mostly c0(kblocking, though I didn't realize it much at the time. But looking back, it was similiar.
Nothing is impossible. But it can be tougher. The OP ought to know what he's getting into. Come to think of it, my old town has 20 some foriegners now. So, things are prob easier there. But, I remember going to a couple of Myeons and feeling this weird cold shoulder. But with lots of stares.
I was in the far south of the country, though I won't say where. Now am closer to the mid part. Maybe it's different in geographic regions. |
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shostahoosier
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Living outside of the Seoul area is my worst nightmare:
-no clubs (I like the club in the British embassy)
-no decent draft beer
-no decent restaurants
-no Hongdae
-no Itaewon!!
-no hobby shops
-no REAL book shops
-no 10 Magazine, no Groove Magazine
You may meet people on your (more frequently as time progresses) trips to Seoul and get thoroughly pissed off when you compare their lifestyle to yours. They have the facilities in Seoul to choose any lifestyle they want. You certainly don't. Then you will be forced to trudge back to your utterly boring little ville before your hillbilly boss cancels the visa he holds in the palm of his hand and casts you out.
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Dont let Cohiba...I mean FDNY scare you off. 
I'll chime (like I usually do) and back up Urbanmyth and Steelrails with support for a rural position. I live in a town smaller than 10,0000 people. It's literally a village and the largest employer (outside of the Korean Army and the agriculture industry) is the local middle/high school. In fact its the biggest building in town too.
I work at a small public school and the gig is amazing. This is my last year only because I dont want to become a "lifer" but I'm really glad I got the placement I did.
My vice principal hates me, but it doesnt matter because all of the parents love me so for the most part I dont have to deal with much BS. GEPIK even cut my school this year but the parents rallied and fundraised to save my position, and I even got a raise!
I dont have a boring social life. In fact, sometimes I wish the Koreans in my town didnt invite me out so much. There are only 2 foreigners in my town (including me) but I never see the other guy because he's out getting so much tail. There's no competition for women in these parts and even the older women can be quite stunning because they're not worn down by the constant hustle needed to live in Seoul.
FDNY is true that I dont have the option of going to Hongdae or Itaewon "whenever I want", but I've never really found either neighborhood impressive anyway. They're ok to visit once in a while but I have yet to go to a bar in Korea that absolutely blows me away with the atmosphere and clientele.
The only real complaint I have is that there isnt a proper movie theater within 90 minutes, but I can handle going only once or twice a month since the selection of movies you get at your average CGV or Lotte Cinema is pretty limited anyway.
My town doesnt have a lot of the foreign foods that are available in Seoul, but for the most part, I've found that you an find almost any food online if you look hard enough. I actually had haggis delivered out to me in the sticks a few weeks ago!
Also I'm not jealous of my friends who live in Seoul. They've managed to find a bubble and keep themselves in it. What a waste of an opportunity to learn about a new culture?! Most of them cant even read hangul after being here for a few years. They also have no clue about Korean culture. The amusing thing is that a lot of these foreigners will be quick to complain about how one-dimensional Korea is.
I'll say to the OP that living in a rural area isnt for everyone. Some people NEED to be in an urban area because they cant adapt. It's not their fault they have this weakness. Seriously though you're not a bad person if you prefer an urban position, but living out in the boonies isnt the nightmare that so many people (who've probably never ventured anywhere outside of the #2 Line) make it out to be. |
A town of 10,000 and your getting lots of tail. Sorry, but your buddy is BSing you. Unless rural life has changed, there's no way local girls are going to be seen openly with a white guy. I lived in a city of almost 100,000 and girls wanted to me in secret but only a select few. Most wouldn't acknowledge me on the street. Just stared straight ahead because of extreme social pressure to conform and protect the "pure blooded Korean race."
I remember a couple of years later just before I left that town, I was seen publicly with a K chick and almost got into a fight with a drunken adjossi because he was saying some pretty ignorant things to her. It was only a fear of racist cops that held me back. But there was a lot of shouting. Point is most girls would not endure that.
But a small little myeon with 10,000 people? Hell no! It ain't going to happen? I suppose there could be a disgraced "divorced" woman around but they wouldn't live in a myeon. It would be too small for apartment complexes.
On the other hand, Seoul and some of the bigger cities seem to have very friendly women who come up and talk to me and look my way. So, if my dating life in a rural area was difficult, it wasn't because of a lack of attraction. (Many guys, I knew from other small towns got nothing at all.) |
Sorry to hear about your situation but I dont have that problem. 
First of all, I'm not white (my friend who is the other foreigner in town isnt either), I'm black and I'm still well treated (but that's a whole other myth debunking thread). Second of all, everyone in town is pretty friendly to me. I've been out on dates and no one has confronted me or even said a word. I've gotten some stares, but when doesnt a foreigner get stares? I'm over it. Everyone in my town knows me. If there was an issue I probably wouldnt be held back in "fear of racist cops" because one of cops speaks some English and we've been out drinking (not that cops would matter either way - hit a Korean and you're deported). It probably wasnt the best idea to let him give me a ride to school in the back of his squad car though.
Also because our area is rural, most of the teachers are young (no seniority so they're stuck out in the sticks) and usually more open minded. Some have expressed interest in me but I don't believe in ### where you eat.
As for my friend, he's actually rather legendary. All of the other foreigners in the area know about his "adventures" and every woman in town seems to know him.
Maybe you're just overestimating your ability to pull.
Obviously you'll have easier odds with 10,000,000 people versus 10,000.
I do think Koreans prefer "purity" but my principal has even tried to set me up with a Korean girlfriend. He frequently tells me "you can marry a nice Korean girl, she is very pretty, very smart, very nice, and she will be a good mother." I like Korea but have no interest in staying long term which is why I dont really date here.
Again I'll say that there's nothing wrong with wanting to live in an urban setting, but I'm beginning to think that a lot of the people who have problems in rural Korea probably might just have problems in general.
The town next to mine has about 30,000 people and the foreigners there love it! In fact every foreigner in the town is renewing and there are 2 people I know trying to get in (it's a eup, I live in a myeon). I bet the EPIK coordinator for Gangwondo (where the town is) never thought that would happen.  These people cant go to Hongdae and Itaewon every night (they're about 2 hours from Seoul by bus) but they do enjoy their 45+ vacation days. Now that's something to be envious about!  |
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sirius black
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I'm a city boy and barely survived rural/small town even in my home country, so more power to you OP. Visits are nice, though.
I just wanted to add that I have a problem with this idea that you get more 'real Korean culture' out in the sticks. Seoul is in Korea and last time I checked houses about half the population of the country, so I don't really know how you can get more Korean than that. Being able to grab a burger every now and again doesn't negate the Korean food us Seoulites eat 90% of the time, plus all the other Koreaness that's heaped upon us like everyone else. Try using the green line every day at rush hour, or zipping through Jamsil in a taxi or having a nice bike ride along the Han and tell me about real Korea. To me, this is the same line of reasoning people like Sarah Palin uses; "Real America", etc. It just creates this us vs them mentality. Besides, I think by saying that Seoul (and specifically Gangnam) is not 'Korean' people imply that only poor, old and unsophisticated things are authentically Korean which is a whole other world of ethnocentricism. Let's just agree that Korea, like all countries, is much more than one location and experience. The OP will just get to see one side of it. |
The above comments are fantastically obvious and 100% true. It is like somebody stating Manhattan or San Francisco isn't really the States. 
In defence of people who think deprivation, boredom, lack of a social life and hicks are the REAL Korea, I think they need to lash out, vent and try and convince themselves that their position is something EVERYONE must endure. When in fact it is their lack of planning, foresight and possibly just rotten luck being stranded in the sticks. We should pity them and try and show a little empathy. |
The only truth you've posted when these similar topics come up is that Korea is Korea. However, you are misleading people with misinformation who are trying to make a huge decision whenever you post the its Seoul or nothing advice. Its wrong to play with someone's life like that.
There are tons of people who don't like living in Seoul. Its such an egocentric thing to give advice based on YOUR likes as if its what everyone shoulld abide by.
Seoul is a great city. I have nothing against it and love visiting it. I've spent weeks there for winter or summer camps so its not just a weekend visit as well as spending my vacation there when my ex gf lived there. I know the trains and areas as much as any NET living there (maybe a bit more as I actually visited the museums, etc.). But I don't want to live there and enjoy going to visit one of my former small towns as much, in fact more, than I do Seoul.
To the OP, you got a good idea of small town life from the preceding posts. Most are very accurate. I will add this. You also have to enjoy your own company. This is advice that applies to people going to Seoul as well. You will spend a lot of time by yourself in your room. Recommend to have something to occupy that time. Some people have gotten another degree online like a Masters. One guy I know was a poker player and played online poker, I've met a day trader who was up at odd hours, a Kindle may be of use. Download movies, whatever. I'd have a plan just to cover the first couple months while you're getting adjusted and before you're able to make friends. Again this applies to anyone new, anywhere in Korea.
In small towns often times you have B or C list rock star status. Get used to being stared at. Sometimes its great but when you're moody its annoying. As for dating, it depends on you. Yes, its true, a lot of girls or the ones that can leave to go to bigger cities but you are a big fish in a small pond and depending on your game, you can have a lot of fun...wink wink. People will know your business to some extent but who cares, you're getting laid.
Learning Korean is always a good thing to do. No downside ever to learning it. Its not imperative. Depending on your ability to pick up languages it can be frustrating or fun. What is true is that it opens up a whole, huge world. Much bigger world than if you didn't learn. You don't have to be fluent but you can get a lot knowing only a little.
Finally have an open mind and a sense of humor, both will come in handy and that's for anywhere you live, home or abroad |
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Ribena
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Life must be boring in Korea if your not a man without one of these mythical girlfriend things. I must be doomed.
Although I see some business opportunities to rent out these girlfriends, not hookers mind you. More like mail-order brides but a rental option that you can return when you get that job in Seoul. |
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sirius black
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Life must be boring in Korea if your not a man without one of these mythical girlfriend things. I must be doomed.
Although I see some business opportunities to rent out these girlfriends, not hookers mind you. More like mail-order brides but a rental option that you can return when you get that job in Seoul. |
Hate the game not the player. |
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sirius black
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Yep! Big apartment, my a$$! That's a role of the dice. Overtime? Ha ha. Surely, you jest. When I lived in my small town, there was no overtime. The local education office only had me because of a grant and a quota. Would they spend their own money? He!! no. They were the cheapest SOB's, you'd never want to meet. They even tried to pull confucious crap on me. "Bow to me" type of BS! I just laughed in their faces and went home every day after lunch. (Luckily it was before the recession happened and they couldn't get rid of me. No one else would have come.)
Apartment was total run down small pile of moldy crap. Yeah, first year some girls wanted to test ride a foriegn guy in secret sneaking to my one room late at night. But long term, what would their family say? What would the community say? Second year, after those few girls had gone, that was it. Average girl on the street wouldn't be caught dead talking to a foriegner. Then, started travelling more. It sucked to travel for a girlfriend. (Time and expense.) Though K chicks in Seoul and some bigger cities are friendly.
Lately, am trying to save money. Although I live in a much bigger city, it's nto Seoul. But it's better than that place. |
The original post was correct..generally speaking. I don't think he inferred it was that way for 100% of people but most folks. I will concur with him that the apartments of friends in the rural areas were very nice. Also, that were often asked (or told) to do after school classes. If you got screwed, sorry, but you didn't do your homework and ask the right questions about the situation you were getting into. I've also seen that the school worries about someone doing a midnight run and is concerned about their happiness. Its not like Seoul or Busan where you have ready candidates to take their place. Its often tougher to get another teacher.
As for girls, its tougher in some respects but easier in other respects. Every small town, the world over, has girls that are the town rebels. Korea is no different. Also, if its your cup of tea, the older women over 30 and single or divorced are more than willing. They are no longer marriage material and often have no qualms dating a foreigner. Sometimes there is a uni fairly close by and that's another source.
Although its not advisable, some of the teachers at public schools are from out of town as well and are working there for the experience. They often date the foreign guy. I've seen this happen a few times not to mention the female k teachers at the hogwons in town. |
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Ribena
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Life must be boring in Korea if your not a man without one of these mythical girlfriend things. I must be doomed.
Although I see some business opportunities to rent out these girlfriends, not hookers mind you. More like mail-order brides but a rental option that you can return when you get that job in Seoul. |
Hate the game not the player. |
What the *beep*! Just because some people are not creative enough to entertain themselves.
Still looking at the money that these dafties spend on their girlfriends I think my wife rental business could be a goer. Now you could have different packages - one that just for show - you know take her out to dinner, etc, one that stays over and one that stays over and does washing/cleaning etc. The price of course goes up depending on the activities desired. |
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kcmo
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OP here. My school will be in an -eup, so from what I've gathered it will actually have a few chain stores and possibly some western amenities? And as far as the women thing is concerned, I guess I'll just see how the local females are and adapt accordingly A big question I have though is how is the bus system in an -eup? Do they stop runnng pretty early or are there other means of transportation?
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supermouse
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| I had a bigger apartment in Seoul than the one i had when i lived in Masan. It was kind of absurd, and my vacation time got worse. I could only dream of getting 45 days. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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Agreed
(waits with bated breath for a post about how this means TheUrbanMyth hates all teachers here.) |
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