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Why did I study so hard all those years in university?
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: Why did I study so hard all those years in university? Reply with quote

One base rate for: a bachelors degree is 1.9 million a month
A bachelors degree + masters is 2.0 million a month
A bachelors degree + linguistics/ESL masters is 2.1 million per month
A bachelors + masters + doctorate is 2.1 million per month
A bachelors +masters + linguistics/ESL doctorate is 2.2 million per month

Work hard and earn that doctorate. You can earn 2.1 or 2.2 million won at a Korean university. You can teach 20 or more hours and receive 2.1 or 2.2 million won. I guess educators with doctorates teaching 20 hours a week in Canadian universities or American universities earn equivalent to 2.2 million won (CA$ 2,566 per month; US$ 1,893 per month).
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Answer:

Work somewhere else.

I could use my degree to go clean floors as a janitor, but I don't post on some board to complain about it.

I just don't take that job.
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Toby



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't study hard and I bet our salaries are comparable!!!!
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess its entirely possible to have a doctorate and still get dong chimmed. Pabo teacher!!!! Laughing
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Arthur Fonzerelli



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't like it, go home..
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Toby



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arthur Fonzerelli wrote:
If you don't like it, go home..


Don't mince your words there will you?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality,

A degree is not always a bankable commodity.

Also, the 2.2 million you mention for a uni teacher is different then the 2.2 for an average hakwon teacher.
Just compare the number of hours....


Back home an M.A. or evena PHD will not garantee you a high paying job either....it doesn't work like some equation.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think of a Master's as a way to get more covetted positions. Forget about hogwans and small private colleges that are basically the same as hogwans with bigger students, go for the private elementary/middle/high schools and the larger uni's. They usually pay a lot more and have better benefits. For someone with a bachelor's and experience it can still be taxing to get these jobs bt with a Master's and perhaps some experience, you shouldn't have much of a problem. Koreans love certifications and good looks! With both, you will find a great job.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer, don't forget the vacations as well! I've seen uni's that offer between 2 weeks and almost 4 months twice a year, PAID! That's nothing to scoff at!
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Census: More degrees equal bigger bucks
In 1992, a high school graduate could expect to make $820,870 at work between 25 and 64. A college graduate could make $1.4 million, while a professional degree-holder could make more than $3 million. A master's degree-holder is projected to earn $2.5 million, while someone with a professional degree, such as a doctor or lawyer, could make even more --$4.4 million.
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/fyi/teachers.ednews/07/18/degree.dollars.ap/

Higher Education Equals Higher Income
Education Level ........................................... Average Salary
No High School Degree .................................... $14,300
High School Degree ......................................... $23,200
Some College, No Degree................................. $27,260
Associate Degree ............................................ $31,700
Bachelor Degree ............................................. $45,600
http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/youth/career-jumpstart.htm
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Homer
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RR,

Thanks for the stats.

However do you have stats in your bag of stats concerning Graduates who either end up unemployed, underemployed or not working in their fields of study?
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite the fact that it's true, people who equate education with jobs make me laugh.

I went to university because I like to learn things and I purposely chose a useless subject so that I could get an education for the sake of getting an education.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is important to keep in mind that choosing a major and preparing for a career are not the same process. It's true that a college education will help prepare you for the job market. It's untrue that most majors lead directly to particular jobs. Instead, any major can prepare you for numerous job possibilities. A college degree does help you in the workforce, but perhaps not for the reasons you think.

College is the one time in your life when your job, for four years, is to learn all you can about human history, culture, and behavior, as well as the information and theories involved in mathematics and the natural sciences. As you do this, you acquire specific skills--how to define a question, how to investigate possibilities, how to articulate your findings and theories. These skills are the most important things you will learn in college. They are the skills you will use in the workplace and in your life outside of work. And they can be learned within any major.
http://www.washington.edu/students/ugrad/advising/majchoos.html
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the_beaver



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
It is important to keep in mind that choosing a major and preparing for a career are not the same process. It's true that a college education will help prepare you for the job market. It's untrue that most majors lead directly to particular jobs. Instead, any major can prepare you for numerous job possibilities. A college degree does help you in the workforce, but perhaps not for the reasons you think.

College is the one time in your life when your job, for four years, is to learn all you can about human history, culture, and behavior, as well as the information and theories involved in mathematics and the natural sciences. As you do this, you acquire specific skills--how to define a question, how to investigate possibilities, how to articulate your findings and theories. These skills are the most important things you will learn in college. They are the skills you will use in the workplace and in your life outside of work. And they can be learned within any major.
http://www.washington.edu/students/ugrad/advising/majchoos.html


Malarky.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
It is important to keep in mind that choosing a major and preparing for a career are not the same process. It's true that a college education will help prepare you for the job market. It's untrue that most majors lead directly to particular jobs. Instead, any major can prepare you for numerous job possibilities. A college degree does help you in the workforce, but perhaps not for the reasons you think.

College is the one time in your life when your job, for four years, is to learn all you can about human history, culture, and behavior, as well as the information and theories involved in mathematics and the natural sciences. As you do this, you acquire specific skills--how to define a question, how to investigate possibilities, how to articulate your findings and theories. These skills are the most important things you will learn in college. They are the skills you will use in the workplace and in your life outside of work. And they can be learned within any major.
http://www.washington.edu/students/ugrad/advising/majchoos.html

When did RR become a comedian?
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