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Jack of all trades... negative or positive?

 
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:11 am    Post subject: Jack of all trades... negative or positive? Reply with quote

Would you consider the phrase, "Jack of all trades, master of none" to be a negative or a positive way to describe someone?
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r122925



Joined: 02 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jack of all trades = positive

adding "master of none" makes it negative. At least I wouldn't be very happy if someone said that about me.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: Jack of all trades... negative or positive? Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
Would you consider the phrase, "Jack of all trades, master of none" to be a negative or a positive way to describe someone?


Depends on context.

It basically means that the person is versatile but does not acquire deep knowledge or mastery of specific things or subjects.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dabble or specialize. Depends which you want to be associated with.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is many a medical doctor who would remain general practitioner, rather than taking the specialist route.

Would you resent the idea of being addressed as doctor??

If you do, I'd hazard a guess that you're in some kind of minority.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Specialization is better.

우물을 파도 한 우물을 파라
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of someone who suits this phrase, it's definitely better to have a specialization in the modern economy.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think in the modern economy, specialization is more useful/commonly wanted, but I don't think it is inherently a bad thing to be a jack of all trades (even with the caveat of master of none, though a jack of all trades is not always master of none). A more positive way of putting it is a renaissance man. It's good to be versatile, but now mostly jobs want you to specialize in something. Though I think in education, especially with kids, versatility is a huge plus. I suppose ultimately it depends on the job.
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I'm With You



Joined: 01 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlelisa wrote:
...ultimately it depends on the job.


I would agree with this. Even as a language teacher, it's in one's best interest to have a working knowledge of the various areas of TESOL - SLA, EFL Methodology, Phonology and Pragmatics. Let's be honest, the work that most of us do, whether we are teaching 4-skills classes at a hogwan or in a university, requires us to have an awareness in each of the above areas. The clients we work with are such that it isn't necessary for us to specialists in any single area of TESOL.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you be a jack of many trades and master at a couple?

Certainly has worked for me and a few others whom I know.

I think that the current trend toward specialization is not necessarily a good thing. There is a lot to be said for a broad base and the wider understanding that goes along with it.

Of course there are exceptions, I wouldn't want a GP doing brain surgery on my daughter but it is nice to have that wise old GP with his broad base of knowledge, experience and a modicum of common sense when she gets sick.

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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silkhighway wrote:
Speaking of someone who suits this phrase, it's definitely better to have a specialization in the modern economy.


Exactly. That's why I specialize in desktop publishing.
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litebear



Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably quite insulting to a lion tamer. Then again probably a compliment to a prostitute
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Can you be a jack of many trades and master at a couple?

Certainly has worked for me and a few others whom I know.

I think that the current trend toward specialization is not necessarily a good thing. There is a lot to be said for a broad base and the wider understanding that goes along with it.

Of course there are exceptions, I wouldn't want a GP doing brain surgery on my daughter but it is nice to have that wise old GP with his broad base of knowledge, experience and a modicum of common sense when she gets sick.

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Agreed completely!
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Cacille



Joined: 05 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think being a jack of all trades is great when you're in the construction business. Customers, in my experience, like people who have an allover knowledge of how to fix a house, that way they only need to call one or two people total to do about anything in their house. Personally, I'm not a jack of all trades, I specialize in anything painting, but I can also add some decorating and very minor carpentry, electrical, and plumbing to my list of stuff I can do for people just from past experience in my own places. It also helps that I've worked for a major big-box retailer for 8 years. I learned a little of absolutely everything to do with home repair. Customers tend to call me back for my specialization, and know that I also know people in other sectors of home repair that may help them with other stuff.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
Specialization is better.

우물을 파도 한 우물을 파라


A specialist doctor may be unlikely to identify Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever and a country might recognize it right away.
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