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Can you still withdraw when NOA is coming?

 
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Mila



Joined: 09 Aug 2011
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:16 am    Post subject: Can you still withdraw when NOA is coming? Reply with quote

I have a public school position confirmed and am currently just waiting for the NOA. I'm quite satisfied with it...but would still prefer to be working in Seoul. So I'm planning to also apply for a hagwon in Seoul. (I have all my documents ready). But my question is if I'm accepted to a hagwon, is it too late to reject the public school position?? If I do, will I be somehow blacklisted?? Or if I don't get a suitable hagwon, can I still accept the public school job? Technically, I haven't rejected them yet. I'm just trying to wait and see other options.

Thank you
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cincynate



Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have 2 sets of documents? If you have your NOA on its way, that means you already sent your documents to EPIK/SMOE/etc.. It won't cause you any issues as long as you don't apply for your visa with your local embassy.. However, if you accept a position at a hakwon and get your visa issuance number, then it will cause you problems if you try to apply for the visa using the NOA from the public school system.
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Modernist



Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are going to have to get over your desire for the perfect [whatever] very quickly upon arrival here. In my case it lasted about 3 1/2 minutes after leaving Incheon [which IS pretty close to the perfect airport, I'll concede].

Your question is basically, how long can you string along your non-Seoul PS whilst chasing some kind of mythical perfect hagwon [in Gangnam, 10 minute walk to school, teaching classes of about 6 or 7 perfectly behaved, adorably cute, intellectually gifted children of the professional-technical class, for 2.5, right?].

The bottom line is that the PS has a time they expect you to begin working. Once they issue a NOA and you receive it [they will track it, so they will know when you actually have it in hand], you are supposed to take it to your local consulate to get the visa. About the only wiggle room there is if you live a long way away and it has to be done through the mail. About a week max. Then you have to book your ticket. They will be expecting you to commit to being at the school by a specific day, likely a Monday.

If you pull out any time after accepting the NOA, you will likely never be hired by any PS in Korea again. So you have perhaps 2 weeks from now to try to find your perfect hagwon. I'll give you a hint: the relatively few really great ones are little places that only recruit from people already here and by word-of-mouth. Given the problems many people are having finding PS jobs now, you would be wise take the bird in hand.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you pull out any time after accepting the NOA, you will likely never be hired by any PS in Korea again.


I don't see how this is true. Many recruiters work with public schools directly. Instead of pulling out, tell them an emergency came up at the last minute.

You are not helping other teachers by abiding to stupid rules and regulations.
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Mila



Joined: 09 Aug 2011
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:

Your question is basically, how long can you string along your non-Seoul PS whilst chasing some kind of mythical perfect hagwon [in Gangnam, 10 minute walk to school, teaching classes of about 6 or 7 perfectly behaved, adorably cute, intellectually gifted children of the professional-technical class, for 2.5, right?].


I'm not trying to find the perfect hagwon. I want to be in Seoul because my s/o currently attends school there. But if I can't get Seoul, I'll still gladly take the public school job because it's still better than being in different countries.

@koreatimes- thanks for the advice
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soyoungmikey



Joined: 29 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why you'd want a Hagwon job anyways. The odds are you will encounter more problems than at a P.S. You will encounter non-payment, before contract dismissal (meaning no severance), going out-of-business, non-payment of pension and/or healthcare... the list goes on. In the P.S. I'm sure there will be problems but more often than not it will be co-teacher or student issues. Better to deal with one or two problems than many. As well, at P.S. less working hours, more vacation and weekends and evenings off. Food for thought.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Can you still withdraw when NOA is coming? Reply with quote

Mila wrote:
I have a public school position confirmed and am currently just waiting for the NOA. I'm quite satisfied with it...but would still prefer to be working in Seoul. So I'm planning to also apply for a hagwon in Seoul. (I have all my documents ready). But my question is if I'm accepted to a hagwon, is it too late to reject the public school position?? If I do, will I be somehow blacklisted?? Or if I don't get a suitable hagwon, can I still accept the public school job? Technically, I haven't rejected them yet. I'm just trying to wait and see other options.

Thank you


It won't be too late to decline the public school position (as long as you haven't applied for your visa, as cincynate, said). But...are you applying to EPIK? If you apply again, the application asks you if you've ever rejected a placement. One of the users on the EPIK Spring 2012 thread mentioned having put down that they had rejected a placement and as a result, was not accepted this time around.

Personally, I'd wait to get your NOA and then decide. Getting a hagown position won't take as long as waiting for EPIK.
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