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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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 Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:17 pm Post subject: Too smart to be a cop |
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95836&page=1#.TwNvHM1lY51
A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.
The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court�s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.
�This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class,� Jordan said today from his Waterford home. �I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else.�
He said he does not plan to take any further legal action.
Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.
The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.
Jordan alleged his rejection from the police force was discrimination. He sued the city, saying his civil rights were violated because he was denied equal protection under the law.
But the U.S. District Court found that New London had �shown a rational basis for the policy.� In a ruling dated Aug. 23, the 2nd Circuit agreed. The court said the policy might be unwise but was a rational way to reduce job turnover.
Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test. |
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tatertot
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| The real reason they rejected him is because he is DEAD! |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| That doesn't make any sense. 125 isn't that high, it's pretty average for uni graduates. (Or it used to be.) |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| Draz wrote: |
| That doesn't make any sense. 125 isn't that high, it's pretty average for uni graduates. (Or it used to be.) |
You obviously don't know many cops in the US. Most cops I know would have little chance of graduating from a decent university. |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:54 am Post subject: Re: Too smart to be a cop |
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| madoka wrote: |
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95836&page=1#.TwNvHM1lY51
Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.
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am i wrong in thinking this makes sense somehow?? |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| Becoming a prison guard is usually not the mark of a smart man. |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| Becoming a prison guard is usually not the mark of a smart man. |
Not so fast there slick. From the Wall Street Journal:
Here's some advice: Forget Harvard. If you want to earn big bucks and retire young, you're better off becoming a California prison guard.
The job might not sound glamorous, but a brochure from the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitations boasts that it "has been called 'the greatest entry-level job in California'�and for good reason. Our officers earn a great salary, and a retirement package you just can't find in private industry. We even pay you to attend our academy." That's right�instead of paying more than $200,000 to attend Harvard, you could earn $3,050 a month at cadet academy.
It gets better.
Training only takes four months, and upon graduating you can look forward to a job with great health, dental and vision benefits and a starting base salary between $45,288 and $65,364. By comparison, Harvard grads can expect to earn $49,897 fresh out of college and $124,759 after 20 years.
As a California prison guard, you can make six figures in overtime and bonuses alone. While Harvard-educated lawyers and consultants often have to work long hours with little recompense besides Chinese take-out, prison guards receive time-and-a-half whenever they work more than 40 hours a week. One sergeant with a base salary of $81,683 collected $114,334 in overtime and $8,648 in bonuses last year, and he's not even the highest paid.
Sure, Harvard grads working in the private sector get bonuses, too, but only if they're good at what they do. Prison guards receive a $1,560 "fitness" bonus just for getting an annual check-up.
Most Harvard grads only get three weeks of vacation each year, even after working for 20 years�and they're often too busy to take a long trip. Prison guards, on the other hand, get seven weeks of vacation, five of them paid. If they're too busy racking up overtime to use their vacation days, they can cash the days in when they retire. There's no cap on how many vacation days they can cash in! Eighty officers last year cashed in over $100,000 at retirement.
The cherry on top is the defined-benefit pension. Unlike most Harvard grads working in the private sector, prison guards don't have to delay retirement if their 401(k)s take a hit. Prison guards can retire at the age of 55 and earn 85% of their final year's salary for the rest of their lives. They also continue to receive medical benefits. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| Becoming a prison guard is usually not the mark of a smart man. |
Not so fast there slick. From the Wall Street Journal:
Here's some advice: Forget Harvard. If you want to earn big bucks and retire young, you're better off becoming a California prison guard.
The job might not sound glamorous, but a brochure from the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitations boasts that it "has been called 'the greatest entry-level job in California'�and for good reason. Our officers earn a great salary, and a retirement package you just can't find in private industry. We even pay you to attend our academy." That's right�instead of paying more than $200,000 to attend Harvard, you could earn $3,050 a month at cadet academy.
It gets better.
Training only takes four months, and upon graduating you can look forward to a job with great health, dental and vision benefits and a starting base salary between $45,288 and $65,364. By comparison, Harvard grads can expect to earn $49,897 fresh out of college and $124,759 after 20 years.
As a California prison guard, you can make six figures in overtime and bonuses alone. While Harvard-educated lawyers and consultants often have to work long hours with little recompense besides Chinese take-out, prison guards receive time-and-a-half whenever they work more than 40 hours a week. One sergeant with a base salary of $81,683 collected $114,334 in overtime and $8,648 in bonuses last year, and he's not even the highest paid.
Sure, Harvard grads working in the private sector get bonuses, too, but only if they're good at what they do. Prison guards receive a $1,560 "fitness" bonus just for getting an annual check-up.
Most Harvard grads only get three weeks of vacation each year, even after working for 20 years�and they're often too busy to take a long trip. Prison guards, on the other hand, get seven weeks of vacation, five of them paid. If they're too busy racking up overtime to use their vacation days, they can cash the days in when they retire. There's no cap on how many vacation days they can cash in! Eighty officers last year cashed in over $100,000 at retirement.
The cherry on top is the defined-benefit pension. Unlike most Harvard grads working in the private sector, prison guards don't have to delay retirement if their 401(k)s take a hit. Prison guards can retire at the age of 55 and earn 85% of their final year's salary for the rest of their lives. They also continue to receive medical benefits. |
Wow. And for all that I'll I have to do is hear the nightly faint screams of men being raped by other men. Where do I sign up? |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| madoka wrote: |
| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| Becoming a prison guard is usually not the mark of a smart man. |
Not so fast there slick.
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Wow. And for all that I'll I have to do is hear the nightly faint screams of men being raped by other men. Where do I sign up? |
Not only that, but the possibility of having feces thrown on me, being assaulted or murdered is to die for  |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida
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| Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| What about when you're caught on the wrong side of the bars during the riots? |
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