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Has anyone lived in both Seoul and Busan?
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would rank it....
1. Nampo / Busan st / Jagalchi.. that is 1 place in my mind
2. Gwangan
3. Someyon
4. Haeundae
5. KSU
6. PNU

yes, I'm sure all the young locals have gone to the happening Changwon and Ulsan....

motiontodismiss wrote:
It's happening in a few core areas like Kyungsung/Pukyoung, PNU and the like (basically the college towns) but pretty quiet (more like...dead) everywhere else. Be aware though that the population of Busan's been declining for a while and basically this place is an economic shithole on a serious decline (highest unemployment in the country, lowest wages in the country, all the conglomerates moved out, etc. etc.) so outside the college towns you might have a tough time finding young locals to hang out with, because they all moved to Ulsan, Changwon, Seoul, etc. to find jobs.
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motiontodismiss



Joined: 18 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malislamusrex wrote:
I would rank it....
1. Nampo / Busan st / Jagalchi.. that is 1 place in my mind
2. Gwangan
3. Someyon
4. Haeundae
5. KSU
6. PNU

yes, I'm sure all the young locals have gone to the happening Changwon and Ulsan....

motiontodismiss wrote:
It's happening in a few core areas like Kyungsung/Pukyoung, PNU and the like (basically the college towns) but pretty quiet (more like...dead) everywhere else. Be aware though that the population of Busan's been declining for a while and basically this place is an economic shithole on a serious decline (highest unemployment in the country, lowest wages in the country, all the conglomerates moved out, etc. etc.) so outside the college towns you might have a tough time finding young locals to hang out with, because they all moved to Ulsan, Changwon, Seoul, etc. to find jobs.


I never said they were happening. Just that they're there for the jobs. Factory work at Hyundai pays like $40k and this salary goes up to $100k with experience and they can never be fired because the unions are more into going on strike than the French.

For a young person (local or expat) trying to make a living, Busan sucks ass. Just saying.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. I'm young(ish) and am making a good living here. Have also turned down pt work on the side that could have me on around 3mil a month for just 2 more hrs a week basically out of laziness and not wanting to work on the weekend.

Anyway, this thread has so much misinformation and information gleaned from practically zero experience that I am once again reminded why I'm barely posting here anymore.
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furtakk



Joined: 02 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisM wrote:
I will be studying the language when I'm in Korea and I'm not going to teach if that means anything. So a fairly good language program would be a plus.


I can't comment on Busan, but if this is the reason you're coming to Korea Seoul would be a great choice. I don't know anything about the language programs at the universities in Busan, but they are all quite established in Seoul. Sogang and Yonsei are both in Sinchon and there are tons of hasukjip/goshiwon to choose from as well as language exchange groups, events, etc.

The student population (in the Korean program) is a lot bigger as well. I find that I practice Korean far more with my classmates outside of class than I do with Korean friends. Although to be fair, most of them were friends before starting the program and we used English at the time so it just feels strange to switch.

Sinchon is also a fun and cheap place to hang out if you're on a student budget. Even if you want a change of scenery Hongdae is only one stop away and Itaewon is only 10 minutes if you take line 6 near Sogang. Busan is a lot more spread out so even if you feel like hanging out elsewhere, it requires a bit more planning.
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furtakk



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

double post

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motiontodismiss



Joined: 18 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus if you want to learn Korean people in Busan speak in a dialect that's difficult to understand for a lot of Koreans let alone foreigners (and that I personally find annoying-something about the intonation or something else just pisses me off, Seoul/Gyeonggi Korean's a lot easier on the ears though). Much better to learn "standard" Korean in Seoul.
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Rutherford



Joined: 31 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interesting. I'm young(ish) and am making a good living here. Have also turned down pt work on the side that could have me on around 3mil a month for just 2 more hrs a week basically out of laziness and not wanting to work on the weekend.


Is this as a language instructor? In that case you're really looking at a different job market than the average young Korean.

It's harder to get a job here than in other cities. I've had a number of Korean friends who moved to Geoje, Tongyeong, Ulsan, or Seoul to find better jobs. Most of them would rather have stayed in Busan. When I taught at an affluent hogwan here I also had several students whose fathers worked in other cities during the week while the family stayed in Busan. Quality of life is good here but there just isn't as much opportunity.
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The Floating World



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But you said young foriegners and or Koreans.

I've met some Turks that make decent coin as engineers on ships too.
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motiontodismiss



Joined: 18 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll bet you my next paycheck that the job market for language teachers in Gangnam+Mokdong alone are bigger than that in all of Busan though. And other sectors, like finance? Pfff, Seoul kicks Busan's butt left, right and center. There IS no finance industry in Busan. The only industries where Busan might win are logistics and shipbuilding but most of those jobs left for Geoje and Ulsan. Busan has no economy and the city as a whole is basically going under.
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Garciua



Joined: 16 Sep 2011
Location: Iceland

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to try to live in a homogeneous place just to try it out and see what it's like, so no need to bash me for it.

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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisM wrote:
I know this is a weird question so spare me the hateful replies.

Basically where would I see less foreigners on a day to day basis? In the popular areas of Seoul, overall in Seoul, popular areas of Busan and/or overall in Busan?
I just want to try to live in a homogeneous place just to try it out and see what it's like, so no need to bash me for it.


There's a really easy solution to this: don't live in Seoul or Busan.
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