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Going six months without booze!
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:
Hmmm, I read this post. I laughed. I cried. I was deeply touched. My big question is why you feel the need to use a quotation mark after your title? Like this is some amazing epiphany to life. My other question is what this has to do with living in Korea. It was my understanding that this is what this particular forum was for. Aren't there lots of AA forums on the web that this would be better suited for? Moreover, there are MANY things in our lives that are not 100% kosher for our bodies. Like eating meat and salt, breathing pollution, not exercising regularly. Will those be your next posts? Rolling Eyes


It's an exclamation point, not a quotation mark.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

weso1 wrote:
For a week straight I was chiefin'. I can say, I've rarely felt happier. It was like old times again. Everything was hilarious, I felt so up beat, and positive about everything. I probably watched every Lonely Island video on youtube a dozen times and I just felt amazing again. Slept like a baby too. Woke up refreshed and energized each day.

Well we can't have people feeling like THAT! Those effects are far too positive. Ban the stuff!

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So if booze is legal. Something everyone here has said makes them irritable, depressed, out of shape, and moody - then why can't weed be legal too? Something that makes people mellow out, feel happy and silly, and doesn't have any adverse side effects, at least nothing on par with alcohol and cigarettes.


I was thinking the same thing.
When you compare the side effects of alcohol vs. pot, alcohol loses big time for many people. For me, alcohol adversely affects my mood after a night of drinking. It elevates my mood for about an hour, then comes slowly crumbling down the rest of the night. The next day my head and stomach hurts and I feel grumpy and combative, and that's if I don't get a hangover, in which case I feel borderline suicidal for about 4 hours, and that's if I'm not puking. Awesome drug this alcohol stuff.

Contrast that with pot where you mostly feel happy and excited about random things like music or art, and feel more empathy with people. Instead of wanting to fight them because they might be different, suddenly you feel empathy for them. How many drunken brawls do you hear about verses stoned brawls? Alcohol: "Grrr... Fu*k off and/or fu*k me!" Pot: "Hey, no worries, it's all good." And the next day after pot, just a little spacey but breakfast and coffee fixes that fast.

Neither substance is harmless, but it's amazing how alcohol is totally acceptable but pot is illegal almost everywhere. They should at least be on par from a legal standpoint. It's a really odd bias. When is this going to change?
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detonate



Joined: 16 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott in Incheon wrote:
Of course their definition of binge drinking is women having more than 4 drinks and men having more than 5 drinks in one sitting.

Hardly binging....


You know you're an alcoholic when... jk.

Drinking less makes it more fun when you do drink, anyways.
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transmogrifier



Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:
Hmmm, I read this post. I laughed. I cried. I was deeply touched. My big question is why you feel the need to use a quotation mark after your title? Like this is some amazing epiphany to life. My other question is what this has to do with living in Korea. It was my understanding that this is what this particular forum was for. Aren't there lots of AA forums on the web that this would be better suited for? Moreover, there are MANY things in our lives that are not 100% kosher for our bodies. Like eating meat and salt, breathing pollution, not exercising regularly. Will those be your next posts? Rolling Eyes


You sound like an amazing person. Can we hang out?
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DanseurVertical



Joined: 24 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:
Hmmm, I read this post. I laughed. I cried. I was deeply touched. My big question is why you feel the need to use a quotation mark after your title? Like this is some amazing epiphany to life. My other question is what this has to do with living in Korea. It was my understanding that this is what this particular forum was for. Aren't there lots of AA forums on the web that this would be better suited for? Moreover, there are MANY things in our lives that are not 100% kosher for our bodies. Like eating meat and salt, breathing pollution, not exercising regularly. Will those be your next posts? :roll:

I think the concurrence of moving to Korea and drinking more (or much more) is very common and arguably a cultural problem among NETs here. I have met relatively few fellow foreign teachers in Korea, but the subject of drinking, binge drinking, hangovers, drinking to engage in social interaction, etc. has come up often. I don't recall this at all living back in the States.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mainly because you'll get more flack for drinking heavily in the U.S. whereas it's tolerated and even encouraged here.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix1 wrote:

Neither substance is harmless, but it's amazing how alcohol is totally acceptable but pot is illegal almost everywhere. They should at least be on par from a legal standpoint. It's a really odd bias. When is this going to change?


People are simply brainwashed. If you're American vote for Paul if you want to change this. As a Korean, I'm disappointed this sort of issue isn't even on the discussion table here.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix1 wrote:
weso1 wrote:
For a week straight I was chiefin'. I can say, I've rarely felt happier. It was like old times again. Everything was hilarious, I felt so up beat, and positive about everything. I probably watched every Lonely Island video on youtube a dozen times and I just felt amazing again. Slept like a baby too. Woke up refreshed and energized each day.

Well we can't have people feeling like THAT! Those effects are far too positive. Ban the stuff!

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So if booze is legal. Something everyone here has said makes them irritable, depressed, out of shape, and moody - then why can't weed be legal too? Something that makes people mellow out, feel happy and silly, and doesn't have any adverse side effects, at least nothing on par with alcohol and cigarettes.


I was thinking the same thing.
When you compare the side effects of alcohol vs. pot, alcohol loses big time for many people. For me, alcohol adversely affects my mood after a night of drinking. It elevates my mood for about an hour, then comes slowly crumbling down the rest of the night. The next day my head and stomach hurts and I feel grumpy and combative, and that's if I don't get a hangover, in which case I feel borderline suicidal for about 4 hours, and that's if I'm not puking. Awesome drug this alcohol stuff.

Contrast that with pot where you mostly feel happy and excited about random things like music or art, and feel more empathy with people. Instead of wanting to fight them because they might be different, suddenly you feel empathy for them. How many drunken brawls do you hear about verses stoned brawls? Alcohol: "Grrr... Fu*k off and/or fu*k me!" Pot: "Hey, no worries, it's all good." And the next day after pot, just a little spacey but breakfast and coffee fixes that fast.

Neither substance is harmless, but it's amazing how alcohol is totally acceptable but pot is illegal almost everywhere. They should at least be on par from a legal standpoint. It's a really odd bias. When is this going to change?


Periodically smoking marijuana doesn't appear to hurt lung capacity, the largest study ever conducted on pot smokers has found.

http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/10/10098412-smoking-pot-doesnt-hurt-lung-capacity-study-shows
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pegasus64128



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've greatly reduced the amount I drink as it's also getting harder for me.
My hangovers can last several days. Also, I just don't have enough time for that lifestyle anymore. You have to be prepared to change things around I've found.

"Work is the curse of the drinking classes." -- Oscar Wilde

Side note: I had to do a Winter camp at the public school where I work, and part of that involved phonics classes. The /o:i:/ sound was part of this, as was the word 'joint'.
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transmogrifier



Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since going back to NZ, I drink much less in one sitting than I used to in Korea, mainly because Auckland's public transport system sucks and I need to make sure I'm under the limit to drive back home if I'm at a mate's house.

The upside to this is, I think, that you get more of a glowing, positive, all-is-awesome buzz going after only a couple and you appreciate it it more, whereas when you are a binge drinker, it takes longer to get that buzz and it passes much faster. At least for me.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems moderate drinking has many benefits like longer life, lower blood pressure, reduced risk of diabetes, and lower risk of brain degeneration (!), but it seems many in Korea, domestic and foreign, have trouble keeping it to just two drinks or fewer.

http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayinhealth/10-surprising-health-benefits-beer?page=4
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