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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: wasting time Reply with quote

Landros wrote:
Most Koreans think English is just a Translation of Korean. they just want the English word for stuff they say in Korea. We don't say "work hard" when leaving and we don't say "Help yourself" before eating. You can't learn a language without the culture.


My grandmother sometimes said "help yourself" when she was still bringing food to the table and cooking.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: wasting time Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
Landros wrote:
Most Koreans think English is just a Translation of Korean. .. we don't say "Help yourself" before eating. You can't learn a language without the culture.


This one really bothers me. It isn't even a proper translation.

많이 드세요= "many" "eat" or "eat a lot"

Their usage is like a mother to a child, when the mother thinks the child is old enough to feed itself.


Koreans are children (for all intents and purposes) until age 30. Some still live with money and daddy after that. There you go.

One thing that bugs me is that I've been really trying to correct the basics with my adult students and some of them are going along with it but others insist that they've already learnt it, therefore they don't need to practice. As far as I'm concerned, they may have learned it but they haven't mastered it so we're going to keep on drilling until they do.

When they get to a certain level and communicate most of what they want to communicate with ease, they see no reason to improve beyond that unless they're perfectionists. I'm not sure if this is a Korean thing or an everywhere thing.
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Hugo85



Joined: 27 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"not delicious" always makes me chuckle
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: wasting time Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
Landros wrote:
Most Koreans think English is just a Translation of Korean. they just want the English word for stuff they say in Korea. We don't say "work hard" when leaving and we don't say "Help yourself" before eating. You can't learn a language without the culture.


My grandmother sometimes said "help yourself" when she was still bringing food to the table and cooking.


Indeed, as does a lot of my family of various generations.
Its the equivalent of "go ahead and get started, don't expect me to put it on your plate"

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This one really bothers me. It isn't even a proper translation.

많이 드세요= "many" "eat" or "eat a lot"

Their usage is like a mother to a child, when the mother thinks the child is old enough to feed itself.

Why would it bother you? it's a common english phrase in some places.
we've got one guy complaining that they're not using culture to create an appropriate sentence and the other complaining they're not using a direct translation.

Naver provides 3 translations of it
http://endic.naver.com/krenIdiom.nhn?idiomId=c6addfe4c9da40a18bfa9da8b2201de7
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