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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| No doubt bribery is an ingrained problem in Korea, but the number of scandals involving the current administration seems to go above and beyond the call of duty. So much so that to compare scandals on the left and right seems a false equivalence. So far, we've got a corrupt superintendent at SMOE on the left and that's it at the moment, unless Captain Corea can find some more. Another reason I believe it's a false equivalence is because I think the ruling party/administration, as they are in power, should be held to higher standards. |
From your join date, I'm guessing you've been here for a while.
Don't you recall when Noh was in office - the scandals at the time? His brother taking money? His family being investigated? His nephew and the game machine fiasco?
Whoever is in power gets the focus, that's nothing new.
If the "liberal" side wins this year, it'll be their turn in power, and their turn to deal with the scandals and such.
No side or party can claim innocence here. |
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Stout
Joined: 28 May 2011
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| No doubt bribery is an ingrained problem in Korea, but the number of scandals involving the current administration seems to go above and beyond the call of duty. So much so that to compare scandals on the left and right seems a false equivalence. So far, we've got a corrupt superintendent at SMOE on the left and that's it at the moment, unless Captain Corea can find some more. Another reason I believe it's a false equivalence is because I think the ruling party/administration, as they are in power, should be held to higher standards. |
From your join date, I'm guessing you've been here for a while.
Don't you recall when Noh was in office - the scandals at the time? His brother taking money? His family being investigated? His nephew and the game machine fiasco?
Whoever is in power gets the focus, that's nothing new.
If the "liberal" side wins this year, it'll be their turn in power, and their turn to deal with the scandals and such.
No side or party can claim innocence here. |
Politics is a dirty game, and stuff will always happen, regardless of the party or side.
However, with Noh, you're talking about problems with his family. This thread implicates a key leader of the conservative party. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:03 am Post subject: |
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And Noh killed himself... very possibly to halt the investigation. He's considered a demigod to much of the Left, and an icon of their ideals... yet he too was battered about by corruption scandals.
And his predecessor... were there not also scandals involving him? |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:16 am Post subject: |
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The Korean Left will always rise once again. Noh Mu-hyun was assassinated. He never committed suicide.
Everybody knows this. His will doesn't match his own handwriting.
For Christian Socialism in this land..... we must promote the Left. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
The Korean Left will always rise once again. Noh Mu-hyun was assassinated. He never committed suicide.
Everybody knows this. His will doesn't match his own handwriting.
For Christian Socialism in this land..... we must promote the Left. |
hahahahhahahhaha
Seriously?
hahhahahhaha
Mind showing any credible sources for that? |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
hahahahhahahhaha
Seriously?
hahhahahhaha
Mind showing any credible sources for that? |
Your lack of positive energy is disturbing. Don't forget that I pray for you.  |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Piss off with that praying schtick. This forum has rules regarding bringing religion into the mix. No need to say it. No need to pm me asking to pray with you.
Keep it out of the discussion. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, why no posts about how the Liberal Education superintendent gave his competitor 100 or so million won... right after he dropped out from the competition.
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Missed that one. Links anyone? |
He just got convicted
Kwak guilty of bribery
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Kwak was indicted in September 2011 on suspicion that he handed out 200 million won to Park Myong-gee, a professor at Seoul National University of Education who was a leading candidate during the 2010 election for Seoul education superintendent.
At that time, Park suddenly dropped out of the race, and Kwak became the single liberal candidate and won the election.
Prosecutors suspected that Kwak gave money in return for his rival�s withdrawal. They found that Kwak�s aide and Park�s aide secretly met before the election in June 2010 and agreed to exchange money for Park�s exit.
But Kwak said he didn�t order the agreement and was informed of the arrangement four months after the election.
He argued that eight months after the election, he decided to give the money as a �goodwill� gesture after he heard Park would drop out of the campaign on which he spent so much money. |
As I stated before, both sides of this are pretty dirty. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Your bias astounds me.
Do you EVER post about scandals on the Left? |
Maybe you should post about some scandals on the left then. |
Here's another -
http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2947754&cloc=joongangdaily|home|newslist1
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Just weeks after accusations that the ruling Grand National Party�s former chairman Park Hee-tae gave envelopes stuffed with cash to his fellow lawmakers to win the 2008 leadership election, prosecutors were tipped off that the major opposition Democratic United Party also had a similar problem.
According to the Seoul Central District Prosecutors� Office, Kim Gyeong-hyeop, a former presidential secretary during late president Roh Moo-hyun�s administration, allegedly distributed cash envelopes to DUP lawmakers at the Seoul KyoYuk MunHwa HoeKwan, the party�s venue for watching the election results, in southern Seoul, in December 2011. |
As I said before.. it seems to flow back and forth. BOTH parties have their fingers in a number of cookie jars. |
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New Balance
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
Your bias astounds me.
Do you EVER post about scandals on the Left? |
Maybe you should post about some scandals on the left then. |
Here's another -
http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2947754&cloc=joongangdaily|home|newslist1
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Just weeks after accusations that the ruling Grand National Party�s former chairman Park Hee-tae gave envelopes stuffed with cash to his fellow lawmakers to win the 2008 leadership election, prosecutors were tipped off that the major opposition Democratic United Party also had a similar problem.
According to the Seoul Central District Prosecutors� Office, Kim Gyeong-hyeop, a former presidential secretary during late president Roh Moo-hyun�s administration, allegedly distributed cash envelopes to DUP lawmakers at the Seoul KyoYuk MunHwa HoeKwan, the party�s venue for watching the election results, in southern Seoul, in December 2011. |
As I said before.. it seems to flow back and forth. BOTH parties have their fingers in a number of cookie jars. |
Kim Gyeong-hyeop has been cleared. They were not envelops stuffed with money but invitations to his book publication party.  Any more scandals invoked by the right wing you believe in?
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/02/117_104004.html |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| New Balance wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
Your bias astounds me.
Do you EVER post about scandals on the Left? |
Maybe you should post about some scandals on the left then. |
Here's another -
http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2947754&cloc=joongangdaily|home|newslist1
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Just weeks after accusations that the ruling Grand National Party�s former chairman Park Hee-tae gave envelopes stuffed with cash to his fellow lawmakers to win the 2008 leadership election, prosecutors were tipped off that the major opposition Democratic United Party also had a similar problem.
According to the Seoul Central District Prosecutors� Office, Kim Gyeong-hyeop, a former presidential secretary during late president Roh Moo-hyun�s administration, allegedly distributed cash envelopes to DUP lawmakers at the Seoul KyoYuk MunHwa HoeKwan, the party�s venue for watching the election results, in southern Seoul, in December 2011. |
As I said before.. it seems to flow back and forth. BOTH parties have their fingers in a number of cookie jars. |
Kim Gyeong-hyeop has been cleared. They were not envelops stuffed with money but invitations to his book publication party. Any more scandals invoked by the right wing you believe in?
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/02/117_104004.html |
Oh really? From that same article
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Prosecutors said they decided to withdraw the allegations against Kim after making the determination that "Kim's claims that he distributed only publication party invitations are acceptable."
The agency, however, said the bribery suspicions surrounding the opposition party's December preliminary election are still valid and they will continue to investigate. |
(bolding mine)
Don't break out the champagne just yet... |
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akcrono
Joined: 11 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:31 am Post subject: |
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The Korean Left will always rise once again. Noh Mu-hyun was assassinated. He never committed suicide.
Everybody knows this. His will doesn't match his own handwriting.
For Christian Socialism in this land..... we must promote the Left. |
What this is... I don't even know. |
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Captain Corea
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New Balance
Joined: 15 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| New Balance wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
Your bias astounds me.
Do you EVER post about scandals on the Left? |
Maybe you should post about some scandals on the left then. |
Here's another -
http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2947754&cloc=joongangdaily|home|newslist1
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Just weeks after accusations that the ruling Grand National Party�s former chairman Park Hee-tae gave envelopes stuffed with cash to his fellow lawmakers to win the 2008 leadership election, prosecutors were tipped off that the major opposition Democratic United Party also had a similar problem.
According to the Seoul Central District Prosecutors� Office, Kim Gyeong-hyeop, a former presidential secretary during late president Roh Moo-hyun�s administration, allegedly distributed cash envelopes to DUP lawmakers at the Seoul KyoYuk MunHwa HoeKwan, the party�s venue for watching the election results, in southern Seoul, in December 2011. |
As I said before.. it seems to flow back and forth. BOTH parties have their fingers in a number of cookie jars. |
Kim Gyeong-hyeop has been cleared. They were not envelops stuffed with money but invitations to his book publication party. Any more scandals invoked by the right wing you believe in?
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/02/117_104004.html |
Oh really? From that same article
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Prosecutors said they decided to withdraw the allegations against Kim after making the determination that "Kim's claims that he distributed only publication party invitations are acceptable."
The agency, however, said the bribery suspicions surrounding the opposition party's December preliminary election are still valid and they will continue to investigate. |
(bolding mine)
Don't break out the champagne just yet... |
Did you break out the champagne yet?
Certainly if you were a thinking person, then this dead end accusation would cause a lose of credibility? No? |
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