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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:33 am Post subject: |
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It's black coffee or bust. I don't care what form it is, but I don't want anything in it except coffee, although water is acceptable. And the occasional additional of milk.
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| I (and I understand that this is just me) am quite averse to trying to ask for things that are not explicitly on the menu, even if the chances are 99% that it is available. |
You are not alone. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
It's black coffee or bust. I don't care what form it is, but I don't want anything in it except coffee, although water is acceptable. And the occasional additional of milk.
| chasmmi wrote: |
| I (and I understand that this is just me) am quite averse to trying to ask for things that are not explicitly on the menu, even if the chances are 99% that it is available. |
You are not alone. |
I don't do it in the way that some people do, power-tripping, where you can tell they just want the staff to run around like their personal servants for a silly whim..........buy if I can see the carton of milk sitting there next to the milk steamer, then I think it's ok to ask for a little for my americano. And I don't think it matters if americano is supposed to have milk or sugar or not.....people can have things the way they like it.
They are supposed to want to keep the customer satisfied, you would be led to believe.
I'm really into coffee these days and really appreciate how the coffee revolution in Korea makes it much easier to get the good sh*t nowadays. I can now buy freshly roasted beans from 1 of the 5-6b home-roaster cafes in my neighborhood, take them home and grind them up for European cafe-standard espresso at home. When I came to Korea 11 years ago the coffee was bizarrely bad.
You have to give reluctant credit to Starbucks for doing what they do. Coming into a country and raising the game. They did the same thing in UK in the 80's. Apart from a few immigrant-owned cafes dotted around the UK you couldn't get decent coffee until Starbucks came.....I shudder when I think of it now. Sludge. Bland, overly-milky sludge. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
I don't do it in the way that some people do, power-tripping, where you can tell they just want the staff to run around like their personal servants for a silly whim..........buy if I can see the carton of milk sitting there next to the milk steamer, then I think it's ok to ask for a little for my americano. And I don't think it matters if americano is supposed to have milk or sugar or not.....people can have things the way they like it.
They are supposed to want to keep the customer satisfied, you would be led to believe. |
Pretty sure chasmmi and I are referring to doing something like ordering drip coffee when it's not listed on the menu. The milk/sugar stuff isn't quite the same thing, they have the crap sitting around to add to what's on the menu (as you stated) so that's perfectly fine. |
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UknowsI
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| With regards to the drip coffee issue (Which I have never referred to as drip coffee before but just as coffee or filter coffee), apart from Starbucks, at how many places is it actually offered on the menu board as opposed to just being available if you ask? |
That might be a rhetorical question, but I'll answer it anyway. Out of the coffee chains near my house Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, Dunkin Donut and Starbucks has it on the menu while Caffe Bene does not. To be honest, I don't think many places has it available without putting it on the menu. Half the point with drip coffee is that it's usually much faster since it's already made. If they have to make drip coffee for just one single person, it will take 10 minutes. |
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ssuprnova
Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: Saigon
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Nope, definitely not Konglish.
When I was in Italy a few years ago and ordered a coffee for the first time the barrista asked "espresso o americano"? After saying I want the latter, he proceeded to pull a shot and then diluted it with hot water. As a Canadian I felt stupid. |
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Drew345
Joined: 24 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| At a local 7/11 they got a drip coffee maker last summer. The thing sat around 3 months never used once, then it was gone. I though it was so strange, now it all makes sense. The point of a drip coffee maker is that you make the coffee first, then people buy it. But they were so used to the idea of not making coffee until someone orders it, so they never made a pot. Darn, what a waste. |
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chasmmi
Joined: 16 Jun 2007
Location: Ulsan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
I don't do it in the way that some people do, power-tripping, where you can tell they just want the staff to run around like their personal servants for a silly whim..........buy if I can see the carton of milk sitting there next to the milk steamer, then I think it's ok to ask for a little for my americano. And I don't think it matters if americano is supposed to have milk or sugar or not.....people can have things the way they like it.
They are supposed to want to keep the customer satisfied, you would be led to believe. |
Pretty sure chasmmi and I are referring to doing something like ordering drip coffee when it's not listed on the menu. The milk/sugar stuff isn't quite the same thing, they have the crap sitting around to add to what's on the menu (as you stated) so that's perfectly fine. |
Yep that's what I meant. 
And it appears that US chains have drip coffee on the menu and perhaps the Korean ones don't. (Beansbins doesn't I have checked).
And I still find it very odd that people consider Dunkin' Donuts a coffee shop. |
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goreality
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'm all about ordering the dunkin original.I'm not paying 5000 won for something neither a Korean's nor my tongue can get around to properly pronouncing.
When I go somewhere without drip coffee, I will enjoy an America-no.
I've never understood why in America and Canada black coffee is the same price as the stuff that has added cream and sugar. It's unfair and vile that we must subsidize the cream and sugar prices for those who wish to turn what should be a bitter beverage into a sweet dessert. Pay for your own au lait and avec sucre SVP. |
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UknowsI
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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And I still find it very odd that people consider Dunkin' Donuts a coffee shop. |
Dunkin Donut has pretty much all the types of coffee you would find at a normal coffee shop. In addition, their coffee is in my opinion much better than what you would get at Caffe Bene, and I might also prefer it to Starbucks. Just because it's half the price doesn't make it any worse coffee. The layout of different Dunkin Donuts may vary, but for my local DD, there is no difference from a normal coffee shop. But you have a point that the quality of the coffee is not what defines a coffee shop, since even McDonald's have better coffee than Caffe Bene.
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I've never understood why in America and Canada black coffee is the same price as the stuff that has added cream and sugar. It's unfair and vile that we must subsidize the cream and sugar prices for those who wish to turn what should be a bitter beverage into a sweet dessert. Pay for your own au lait and avec sucre SVP. |
The same reason why paper napkins are free. 1 kg of sugar or 1 litre of milk both cost around 3.000 won and is enough for countless of servings. |
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