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jfromtheway
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AlastairKirby
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Well war is a bit crap isn't it?
Also Korea doesn't have many military victories to celebrate. Any victory they've ever had is a pyrrhic one. The scale of civilian suffering in any conflict in their history is immense. |
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GoldMember
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| You want bleak, try watching a Korean "Melo", or soap opera, you never see a smile, everyone is miserable, and the decor in their homes suck. |
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Malislamusrex
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| my wife watches Korean dramas. I watched one last night just to count how many times a character cried, in one hour there were 36 separate occasions. I don't know wtf was happening, but everyone cried. |
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strange_brew
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| We play a game in the bar when a drama is on tv. Everytime someone cries, you have to drink. |
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myenglishisno
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Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| You want bleak, try watching a Korean "Melo", or soap opera, you never see a smile, everyone is miserable, and the decor in their homes suck. |
I don't get the obsession with "dramas" (soap operas). For a country full of people who do nothing but study and apply what they've studied at work, the vast majority of them have really pedestrian taste in music, film, TV or pretty much any art form.
Music consists of 95% watered down, manufactured pop outfits that are only popular here and poor neighbouring countries. TV is pretty much the same. Movies are popular based on the same metrics as pop music, which would make Transformers 3 "so funny" and Schindler's List "so boring".
Everything is about appearance with no substance, for if soap opera characters weren't crying all the time, how else would you know that they're sad? |
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shostahoosier
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I keep seeing the previews for "My Way" and I cant get over how gratuitous and over the top the violence is.
Yes I know war is really ugly, but do we really need to witness an airplane crashing into a guy standing on a hill? Some of the stuff is just over the top and really unnerving.
I can also say the same for a lot of action movies. Some of the violence is cringe inducing. Is that a Korean film device? |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| shostahoosier wrote: |
I keep seeing the previews for "My Way" and I cant get over how gratuitous and over the top the violence is.
Yes I know war is really ugly, but do we really need to witness an airplane crashing into a guy standing on a hill? Some of the stuff is just over the top and really unnerving.
I can also say the same for a lot of action movies. Some of the violence is cringe inducing. Is that a Korean film device? |
Koreans don't do subtle...........they're a people into their extremes. One of their favorite extremes is extreme tragedy. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| shostahoosier wrote: |
I keep seeing the previews for "My Way" and I cant get over how gratuitous and over the top the violence is.
Yes I know war is really ugly, but do we really need to witness an airplane crashing into a guy standing on a hill? Some of the stuff is just over the top and really unnerving.
I can also say the same for a lot of action movies. Some of the violence is cringe inducing. Is that a Korean film device? |
Koreans don't do subtle...........they're a people into their extremes. One of their favorite extremes is extreme tragedy. |
When a movie or TV show nosedives into a cry fest I have a hard time holding back the laughter, even when people around me are crying with it. |
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Jeweltone
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Location: Seoul, S. Korea
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 A Korean friend of mine commented that:
a. in American soap operas, people yell at each other
b. in Mexican soap operas, people sleep with each other
c. in Korea, people cry over each other
The only "melos" from Korea I really liked were I'M SORRY I LOVE YOU and A LOVE TO KILL (written by the same suspiciously sarcastic screenwriter) - the characters are so ridiculously over the top (ex. bulimic, obsessive compulsive, alcoholic K-drama actress meets sociopathic pugilistic bodyguard) that the screenwriter herself uses their warped personalities to poke sly fun at the genre.
The others...they make me want to throw things at the tv screen, much like THE BACHELOR does...ROAD NUMBER ONE was ok, btw, as far as war K-dramas go...the rest- not so much (yawn). |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
| GoldMember wrote: |
| You want bleak, try watching a Korean "Melo", or soap opera, you never see a smile, everyone is miserable, and the decor in their homes suck. |
I don't get the obsession with "dramas" (soap operas). For a country full of people who do nothing but study and apply what they've studied at work, the vast majority of them have really pedestrian taste in music, film, TV or pretty much any art form.
Music consists of 95% watered down, manufactured pop outfits that are only popular here and poor neighbouring countries. TV is pretty much the same. Movies are popular based on the same metrics as pop music, which would make Transformers 3 "so funny" and Schindler's List "so boring".
Everything is about appearance with no substance, for if soap opera characters weren't crying all the time, how else would you know that they're sad? |
No comment on the taste of the general population, but Korea has some genuinely talented film directors making awesome films (Park Chan-Wook, Lee Chang-Dong, Bong Jun-Ho for example) and even the generic genre pieces they make usually have weird subplots and tonal shifts that you never see in Hollywood filmmaking (not that it'll necessarily make the film good in the end). It's fascinating. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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There is alot of Korean war moves about Ancient Korea. I think they're much more gungho about killing stuff.
| myenglishisno wrote: |
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| You want bleak, try watching a Korean "Melo", or soap opera, you never see a smile, everyone is miserable, and the decor in their homes suck. |
I don't get the obsession with "dramas" (soap operas). For a country full of people who do nothing but study and apply what they've studied at work, the vast majority of them have really pedestrian taste in music, film, TV or pretty much any art form.
Music consists of 95% watered down, manufactured pop outfits that are only popular here and poor neighbouring countries. TV is pretty much the same. Movies are popular based on the same metrics as pop music, which would make Transformers 3 "so funny" and Schindler's List "so boring".
Everything is about appearance with no substance, for if soap opera characters weren't crying all the time, how else would you know that they're sad? |
You must watch daytime dramas aimed at broke housewives. Many dramas feature everyone living in gangnam, working for the top levels of samsung, and driving beamers. Everyone is beautiful and impeccably dressed. Dad's a CEO which funds everything.
Many Korean movies are considered the best in Asia. While there are some generic blockbusters, korea has a rather large amount of A quality art cinema movies in the past 2 decades. Contrast that with Japan or China.
You clearly no zero about film and probaly only read Roger Ebert critic's column. Go take some read some Asian cinema books and see how often Korean, Taiwan, or Hong Kong pops up.
I don't judge American film by the blockbusters. Why should you??? Go watch some Korean art house cinema.
Korean TV is exported around Asia and insanely popular. You can argue quality, but I don't see tons of people in Asia telling me about their favorite Japanese or Chinese tv stars. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| You clearly no zero about film and probaly only read Roger Ebert critic's column |
Actually Ebert has been pretty appreciative of Korean film, Asian film, and Asian-American film (he's legendary in the A-A film community for his passionate public defense of Better Luck Tomorrow) and has even included Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and...Spring on his list of Great Movies.
I'm guessing Ebert would probably pay even more attention (he already pays quite a bit) to foreign cinema attention but is limited by time, energy, and illness. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| transmogrifier wrote: |
| No comment on the taste of the general population, but Korea has some genuinely talented film directors making awesome films (Park Chan-Wook, Lee Chang-Dong, Bong Jun-Ho for example) and even the generic genre pieces they make usually have weird subplots and tonal shifts that you never see in Hollywood filmmaking (not that it'll necessarily make the film good in the end). It's fascinating. |
You have to mention Kim Ki-duk as well. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
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| You clearly no zero about film and probaly only read Roger Ebert critic's column |
Actually Ebert has been pretty appreciative of Korean film, Asian film, and Asian-American film (he's legendary in the A-A film community for his passionate public defense of Better Luck Tomorrow) and has even included Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and...Spring on his list of Great Movies.
I'm guessing Ebert would probably pay even more attention (he already pays quite a bit) to foreign cinema attention but is limited by time, energy, and illness. |
Good point,; I just picked a random famous film critic off the top of my head. |
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