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visitorq
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 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: Justice Dept. website shut down in apparent hack |
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(CBS News)
The website of the U.S. Department of Justice was shut down Thursday in what the FBI called a denial of service attack following a piracy indictment involving the file-sharing site Megaupload.
The public websites of Universal Music and the Motion Picture Association of America were also shuttered. On Twitter, the loosely-organized hacking group Anonymous claimed responsibility for the hacks.
Internet relay chats supported by the Anonymous collective show participants discussing the DOJ site being down and talking about other U.S. government sites to target, including the Recording Industry of America.
In addition to the Megaupload indictment, the activists are angry about two proposed antipiracy bills backed by the music and movie industries, SOPA and PIPA, that critics say would give authorities broad power to shut down websites for the mere accusation that they had pirated content on them.
Numerous websites including Wikipedia and Reddit "blacked out" on Wednesday, deliberately hiding their normal content and posting messages protesting the antipiracy bills. Many U.S. entertainment and media companies, including CBS Corporation, back the legislation. |
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57362376/justice-dept-website-shut-down-in-apparent-hack/ |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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With the current spate of attempts by the US government at extraterritorial laws of all sorts ( trying to regulate people in other countries - and the illegal extraterritorial enforcement of those laws by force) this is going to become the norm rather than the exception.
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visitorq
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ Actually, while the US government is certainly one of the worst offenders, I would say it's a globalist agenda. Most of the corporations lobbying for this stuff are multinationals. |
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caniff
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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In tonight's Republican debate only Santorum stood (mostly) behind the bill - to audible boos (he also came off as completely 'not ready for prime-time', but that's just my opinion).
Romney said he was against it - but no one believes him anyway, so whatever.
Newt seemed somewhat sincere when he said it was definitely a bad idea.
We know where RP stands. |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| ^ Actually, while the US government is certainly one of the worst offenders, I would say it's a globalist agenda. Most of the corporations lobbying for this stuff are multinationals. |
They are (in the case of the SOPA) but the only government pandering to them is the US.
Kinda paints a big red, white and blue target on the back of Uncle Sam.
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visitorq
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| Romney said he was against it - but no one believes him anyway, so whatever |
Yeah, I just watched a clip of him saying he would have signed the NDAA just like Obama, because he needs to protect us from "Al Qaida"... He's such a corporate sell-out I bet he'd have his own mother hauled off to a gulag if he received a memo...
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They are (in the case of the SOPA) but the only government pandering to them is the US.
Kinda paints a big red, white and blue target on the back of Uncle Sam. |
Um, last time I checked I could get arrested for bringing pirated goods into Europe, or uploading copy-written materials... Same goes for Japan. This is hardly a problem unique to the US. |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| Romney said he was against it - but no one believes him anyway, so whatever |
Yeah, I just watched a clip of him saying he would have signed the NDAA just like Obama, because he needs to protect us from "Al Qaida"... He's such a corporate sell-out I bet he'd have his own mother hauled off to a gulag if he received a memo...
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They are (in the case of the SOPA) but the only government pandering to them is the US.
Kinda paints a big red, white and blue target on the back of Uncle Sam. |
Um, last time I checked I could get arrested for bringing pirated goods into Europe, or uploading copy-written materials... Same goes for Japan. This is hardly a problem unique to the US. |
It is as much about the extraterritoriality of it.
If they wanted to create laws to govern Americans or regulate people IN America I don't think anyone would care.
But in the case of the SOPA, if you "pirate" some "US" intellectual property, link to a site that does, or reference it, even if you are not in the US and are not a US citizen the US has claimed the right to hijack your website, seize your domain, and chase you to the end of the planet without recourse, EVEN IF you are NOT breaking the law in the country concerned.
Since when did congress become the law makers for the planet and what gives them the right to create such extraterritorial laws?
Sub-sections 1021 and 1022 of the NDAA do the same thing - attempt to justify the extraterritorial enforcement (by force) of US laws on foreign citizens OUTSIDE of the US when they are contrary to US interests.
Big bully is painting a bigger target and the US citizens will pay the price for congress pandering to big business .....
Jan 13. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/new/2012/01/13/politics/images/30173676-01_big.jpg
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caniff
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Big bully is painting a bigger target and the US citizens will pay the price for congress pandering to big business ..... |
What, is this some kind of threat? Have you not seen the protests in America? Do you honestly think we are all behind what's been happening for the last (?) years?
You should take a breather on the anti-US-people stuff. A Canadian isn't faced with the same monster we have to deal with here at home, and this battle isn't gonna be over in the time it takes to watch a Godzilla movie. |
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Ineverlie&I'malwaysri
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Since when did congress become the law makers for the planet and what gives them the right to create such extraterritorial laws? |
These laws have their roots in Nazi-era Germany where it was made illegal to criticize the Fatherland from abroad. Why is it this doesn't surprise me? |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| Big bully is painting a bigger target and the US citizens will pay the price for congress pandering to big business ..... |
What, is this some kind of threat? Have you not seen the protests in America? Do you honestly think we are all behind what's been happening for the last (?) years?
You should take a breather on the anti-US-people stuff. A Canadian isn't faced with the same monster we have to deal with here at home, and this battle isn't gonna be over in the time it takes to watch a Godzilla movie. |
So I stand corrected, your government IS painting a bulls-eye and people ARE (not will - wrong tense in my previous statement) paying the price for it.
IT is NOT anti American sentiment, it is actually sympathizing (" US citizens will pay the price for congress"... ) with the average Joe who IS paying the consequences (loss of rights, being targeted and victimized at home and abroad, etc) for bad government.
Perhaps you should consider debating the facts and leave the personal issues aside or have you watched so many bad presidential debates that you think personal attacks form part of a good debate and have nothing to rebut with other than taking potshots at the messenger rather than the message?
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