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etopkorea
Joined: 20 Sep 2011
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Can we get back on topic please?
Android phones are fine, iPhones are fine... they're all good phones. And I think we can agree that all companies overcharge for the phones. Both types of phones can be customized pretty much any way you want if you are willing to jailbreak your phone. And, there are all sorts of apps and methods that allow you to bypass iTunes or play any form of video on an iPhone (and I'm sure there are apps and methods that allow you to bypass any funky issues with Android).
So, I'm not going to criticize someone for using an Android phone or a Windows computer. If that floats your boat and lets you do what you need to do, more power to you. But, please don't come here and arbitrarily criticize iPhone or Mac users and stereotype them as people who only like shiny Apple logos and like to pay too much for their products.
I've been using Macs for a long time and an iPhone for two years. I have my reasons for using a Mac and it has nothing to do with shiny logos. It's because it lets me do everything I need to do and I like the way the applications tie into one another. The same is true for my iPhone. To be perfectly honest, if you use a Mac, an iPhone is just super easy to use since it works seamlessly with Apple's software on the computer side (calendars, email, address book, web browser, iPhoto, iTunes, etc.). It really is hassle free, and some of us like that. An Android phone on the Mac is not nearly as seamless, and actually requires quite a bit more work to get it to work right. This is not the case on Windows. On Windows, Android phones work pretty seamlessly, especially if you are using Google's computer apps.
So, everyone can have and use what they want. I have not called anyone names and have not criticized anyone here for using this or that. I did call out one poster on some ridiculous claims he made, and made a couple of good-natured jabs at another user, not to criticize him, but to show him that I didn't exactly agree with what he said and thought a couple of the things he said were a wee bit hypocritical.
But, let's stop with the whole Apple people only buy Apple stuff to show off and have shiny things. That is so ridiculous. The Mac and the iPhone are perfectly legitimate forms of hardware/software... as much so as any PC or Android phone.
No one can say one is absolutely better than the other. One can most certainly be better for you and for what you do, though, and I think we need to keep that in mind. I know Mac users can sometimes be a bit much, but Windows/Android users can be just as bad sometimes with some of the ridiculous and stereotypical comments they make.
So, let's get back on topic.
I can't wait until my next trip to the US to give Siri a real test. It kind of sucks that it doesn't work completely in Korea. Also, I found that it only seems to work (for the few things it will do in Korea) when on a WiFi connection. Whenever I try it on 3G, it tells me it is unable to complete the task. It works every time I'm on WiFi, though. I wonder if this is a limitation imposed by the Korean carriers since it's not really intended for the Korean market, or if it is imposed by Apple like the way FaceTime will only work via WiFi? |
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Kheldar
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| Agreed. I'm guilty of a little Apple ribbing myself (I've been a part of numerous Mac vs PC debates on here) and it's all in the spirit of a good-natured rivalry. I may criticize Apple's products but I certainly don't attack anyone on a personal level. But when I'm called a fool, brainwashed, stalker, etc., of course I'm going to respond. But I don't take anything personally from a public forum and I hope everyone else feels the same way. |
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crescent

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: yes.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| Kheldar wrote: |
| Agreed. I'm guilty of a little Apple ribbing myself (I've been a part of numerous Mac vs PC debates on here) and it's all in the spirit of a good-natured rivalry. I may criticize Apple's products but I certainly don't attack anyone on a personal level. But when I'm called a fool, brainwashed, stalker, etc., of course I'm going to respond. But I don't take anything personally from a public forum and I hope everyone else feels the same way. |
Go back and take a look at who first talked about mocking Apple users and having little man's disease. And, you have never, in this thread or before, said / implied that apple users are 'controlled''? I'm not calling you a fool for liking a product, as you have done... i'm calling you a fool for mindlessly repeating false information and arguing hypocritically. Get it?
Why can't you just admit you were wrong ? |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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http://informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/232300176
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Many developers still target iOS first and Android second, but Schmidt sees that changing in Android's favor.....
According to the stats published by Google, Gingerbread versions 2.3 through 2.3.7 account for 50.6% of all the Android smartphones out there. This is the first time that Gingerbread has been the dominant version of Android on Google smartphones. (Reminder, Gingerbread was first released in December 2010).
Android 2.2 Froyo fell to second place, with a still-too-large 35.3% share of Android phones. Android 2.1 Eclair is on 9.6% of Android phones, and, shockingly, Android 1.6 Donut is on 1.6% of Android phones.
Right now, Ice Cream Sandwich's share of the Android Market has to be under 1%.
By way of comparison, about 40% of iOS device users have updated to iOS 5, the latest version. |
I'm surprised that Gingerbread and Froyo hold a 85% majority. Android users just don't want to update their phones or they just don't know how? |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
http://informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/232300176
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Many developers still target iOS first and Android second, but Schmidt sees that changing in Android's favor.....
According to the stats published by Google, Gingerbread versions 2.3 through 2.3.7 account for 50.6% of all the Android smartphones out there. This is the first time that Gingerbread has been the dominant version of Android on Google smartphones. (Reminder, Gingerbread was first released in December 2010).
Android 2.2 Froyo fell to second place, with a still-too-large 35.3% share of Android phones. Android 2.1 Eclair is on 9.6% of Android phones, and, shockingly, Android 1.6 Donut is on 1.6% of Android phones.
Right now, Ice Cream Sandwich's share of the Android Market has to be under 1%.
By way of comparison, about 40% of iOS device users have updated to iOS 5, the latest version. |
I'm surprised that Gingerbread and Froyo hold a 85% majority. Android users just don't want to update their phones or they just don't know how? |
I don't know what you mean.....Are you saying Gingerbread users should be updating to Ice Cream Sandwich? The manufacturers versions haven't been released yet! It takes a little time for Samsung, HTC, Motorola et al to configure and localize each Android release.
Are you saying that Froyo users should update to Gingerbread? They probably should, it being better than Froyo, but they don't have to if they're happy. Like all those people still using XP. You try to tell them how much better W7 is, but they don't care. They're happy where they are.
I don't understand why you think it's a terrible thing if people don't update to the newest release. 60% of iPhone users haven't updated to IOS 5, but you don't see me complaining about them! I don't care! |
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crescent

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: yes.
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| I don't understand why you think it's a terrible thing if people don't update to the newest release. 60% of iPhone users haven't updated to IOS 5, but you don't see me complaining about them! I don't care! |
Terrible? Was that implied? Who's complaining about Android ? |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
| I don't understand why you think it's a terrible thing if people don't update to the newest release. 60% of iPhone users haven't updated to IOS 5, but you don't see me complaining about them! I don't care! |
Terrible? Was that implied? Who's complaining about Android ? |
pkang seems to have an issue with Android users not updating. I'm wondering why. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
| I don't understand why you think it's a terrible thing if people don't update to the newest release. 60% of iPhone users haven't updated to IOS 5, but you don't see me complaining about them! I don't care! |
Terrible? Was that implied? Who's complaining about Android ? |
pkang seems to have an issue with Android users not updating. I'm wondering why. |
I was wondering if the update process was complicated, or people just don't simply care to upgrade.
If each Android release is hands down better than the one before, why don't more people update their phones?
From the reviews I've read, Ice Cream Sandwich comes the closest to dethroning iOS in terms of polish, interface, etc.... |
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spanky1off
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
| I don't understand why you think it's a terrible thing if people don't update to the newest release. 60% of iPhone users haven't updated to IOS 5, but you don't see me complaining about them! I don't care! |
Terrible? Was that implied? Who's complaining about Android ? |
pkang seems to have an issue with Android users not updating. I'm wondering why. |
I was wondering if the update process was complicated, or people just don't simply care to upgrade.
If each Android release is hands down better than the one before, why don't more people update their phones?
From the reviews I've read, Ice Cream Sandwich comes the closest to dethroning iOS in terms of polish, interface, etc.... |
its not really googles responsibility to roll out the os updates, it'll basically come down to manufacturers (sony/samsung.htc etc) themselves and some companies are better at it than others. people themselves id imagine generally want the latest and greatest os option if their phone will run it fine. eventually i think most androids should get to lick the ice cream sandwich. |
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OneWayTraffic
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I just bought a phone in NZ. Given the local pricing and plan options (more expensive than in Korea of course), I had narrowed it down to a Motorola Defy (free on a $80 plan) and the Iphone 4s ($150 on an $80 plan.) The Defy looked better on paper in terms of value for money, no doubt about it. Then in the shop I used it. I just couldn't seem to get the hang of the Defy, while with the Iphone I was up and running very fast. I'd used my brothers Galaxy before but the model in the shop was a lot more money than even the Iphone (no decent plan discount.) All other Android phones were completely uncompetitive on features at the price range I was after.
I have to say that this is my first smartphone and I've never had such an easy well integrated and slick experience on any device. And on a tool like a phone that's exactly what I need. |
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Jyang486
Joined: 25 Nov 2011
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| I got my Iphone 4s about a week ago, and I'm already going through some problems with it. Every so often it freezes when the display turns off, so I have to push the power and menu button for a few seconds to manually reboot it. Also, every so often the 3g fails to connect, so messages in kakao or aim don't get sent, or safari gives me a server issue message. Anyone else get this problem? |
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spanky1off
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| having to reset your phone isnt normal at all. id take it back in or to the a/s centre, definately not something ive experienced. |
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spanky1off
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| iphone 4s n ipad 2 jailbreak released! booom selector! |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Jyang486 wrote: |
| I got my Iphone 4s about a week ago, and I'm already going through some problems with it. Every so often it freezes when the display turns off, so I have to push the power and menu button for a few seconds to manually reboot it. Also, every so often the 3g fails to connect, so messages in kakao or aim don't get sent, or safari gives me a server issue message. Anyone else get this problem? |
I had this problem, sort of, with my iphone4.
but this was under the old 4 ios. Every so often, the phone would just die. I'd send a text message, then a few minutes later, go to check for a reply and wait..what? my phone is totally black, hit the button nothing, hold it down. oh? it's booting?
It wasn't common, but it would happen with just enough frequency that it was annoying. After updating to 5.0 though, I had no trouble.
As for 3G, some areas are overloaded. If you want an alternative, KT sells a wibro egg case for the iphone. It's a little case that is slightly bigger and has a Wibro Egg built into it. It uses Wimax for much faster speeds, and can even recharge your iphone a bit I believe. It creates a personal wifi spot for your iphone everywhere. |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:58 am Post subject: |
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Everything I have read about ICS says it's no big thing as far as the way it looks and feels. Marginally faster, but that's about it. The most significant improvement is a 25% +/- battery life increase.
I have an LG phone and it will update to ICS early this year. LG will issue the update, not Google. Samsung Galaxy IIS owners can't upgrade to ICS, which is one reason I went with LG. Yes, the LG 3G sucks, but that wasn't important to me.
The single reason I stay tell folks to away from iPhone is the battery. Everyone....absolutely everyone says the same thing; one year in, it dies a fast death. It is surreal to me that Apple made this decision, given the fact that the battery doesn't last even half as long as a typical service contract. I can swap the battery or buy a new one a year done the road when they stop holding a good charge. This was a deal breaker for me.
Overall, I like the feel/look of the iPhone a lot. Aesthetically, it wins, but I am more concerned with being able to use the darn thing conveniently. |
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