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Stout
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 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
Wow... there are rumours about North korea???
Say it ain't so.
You sure did prove a major point there.
Good on ya. |
It also happens to be related to the main point we're discussing on this thread.
U want to try to make this thing devolve into a sarcastic mud-slinging match, that's your business. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yet your link did not mention the "rumors" from this thread. It was so wrapped in generalities, it had no meaning.
If you have something that disproves the points by the DailyNK site, by all means, post 'em. Or, if you feel like supporting official KCNA tripe, that's your call too.
But dont be too surprised when you're called on it. |
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Stout
Joined: 28 May 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:29 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Captain Corea"]Yet your link did not mention the "rumors" from this thread. It was so wrapped in generalities, it had no meaning.
If you have something that disproves the points by the DailyNK site, by all means, post 'em. /quote] |
The reality that the site itself is questionable, along with the fact that rumors related to North Korea abound on the net, is enough to suspect the DailyNK is up to the usual baiting game; citing a "source" in what may as well be Saturn's outer ring doesn't make it any more plausible.
It is a site openly in opposition to NK. Does anyone browse articles from Somali news sources to get an objective and balanced view of the US?
http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2947127&cloc=joongangdaily|home|newslist1
The reports originated on Daily NK, an Internet Web site run by opponents of North Korea which said it had learned the information from a source in the isolated communist state�s northeastern province of North Hamkyong. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Mind showing me where that site says its against NK?
Oh, do you mean that it's FOR democracy in the North.
Let me guess, you're against that, right? /rolls eyes |
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Stout
Joined: 28 May 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
Mind showing me where that site says its against NK?
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I guess your reading comprehension has devolved to the point where "opponent" doesn't register as "against".
As for "democracy"...yeah, we've seen what that's gotten us in Iraq. No one "needs" democracy when it's imposed upon them. The Vietnamese will be the first to tell u that.
Maybe u should go back to your parents' house and have them impose some "democracy" on u. Then you'd realize (one would dare to hope) that people and nations are only healthy when they're allowed to develop themselves without being baited in the press, talked down to/told to do it "our way", or have their existence threatened by sanctions and war games.
I dunno, maybe you're a mommy or daddy's boy, and grew up doing just what you were told to, and therefore have evolved into some kinda control freak yourself. Kinda fits in with how you're always yelpin' at people to do things your way/labelin' people as this 'n that, rather than just commenting on the issue.
Relax, dude. I'm assuming your father ain't here to whip out his belt if u get outta line and say something he doesn't like. Don't intrude so much into other's space, and everything will be rosier. People will like u more, and you'll dig your new world. Hell, I'll even buy ya a beer, or a vintage Green Lantern/Dr. Strange comic...well, not really, but the sentiment's there. I apologize for rubbing u the wrong way on some things, sometimes folks jus' don't see eye to eye on everything in this God forsaken world. Let's stop the pissing contest already, shall we 
And by the way, Captain, I really do dig Dr. Strange, 'least what I can recall of 'im-
http://www.comicvine.com/doctor-strange/29-1456/ |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I'm confused. I'm calling you on whether that site is anti-DPRK... or anti-DPRK establishment. I think that there can be a very big difference there. One can love and care for the place - and the people there, but not care for the current regime.
And in response to that, you talk about me and my parents.
How does that make any sense?
For what it's worth, I'm 38, a parent myself, have lived on my own since I was 16... and most of my relatives are dead - including both of my parents. If you insist on trying to make fun of me personally, at least you could get your shit straight. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| What in blue blazes has Iraq got to do with the history of North Korean news printing lies or outlandish stories. All nations throughout history have been interfered with constantly. Canada was nutured "interefered with by Britain. Saudia Arabia was basicially created by the Al Sabah family of Kuwait in a long and bloody war. The nation so isolated as you claim would be ideal does not exist. As for Iraq it was governed by a bloody dictator who had started two wars. The Norths news service lost credibility a long time ago. You should think about visiting there, and find out how great it is. |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| rollo: Stout, being the communist she obviously is, would be incredibly disappointed to discover that the DPRK isn't actually communist at all; it's just another dictatorship. |
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Stout
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, diehards to the end..."she being the communist she obviously is", what a great line, I suppose that means anyone who isn't enthralled with things of this nature are communist, eh?-
"...the tyrant will soon be gone. The day of your liberation is near..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRpREcx1F50&feature=related
Soldiers candidly admit they had free license to kill whomever, whenever: "Just make sure you carry a shovel"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzd4I2-hWEM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBztD75sOuQ&feature=related
And yeah, like it was any different during the Korean War, in Vietnam, etc.
"..Some day the Communists will pay for this..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cta5M9J3fE&feature=relmfu
If you can't face up to the fact the US is in a mess and becoming more fascist by the hour in its own country and how it deals with others, you don't have the capacity to evaluate situations beyond a Tarzan mentality, and certainly wouldn't be able to admit that an avowed opponent of NK would disseminate false rumors to bait NK and reinforce a 'hate-first' approach to dealing with them.
I don't view NK as some sort of 'paradise' or cling to a Stalinist view of the world. I do think we could be doing a better job of how we conduct our business. If trying to improve things is a downer in your book, so be it.
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caniff
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| This thread has certainly taken a bizarre turn... |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Somehow I am reminded of a book by a Canadian woman "China BLue" I think was the title. it was not much of book actually , but it was the account of a young woman who saw the West as fascist,imperialisti, whose governments purpose was to create perfect little nazi bots who they could control. She assumed that most of the negative things said about China was deliberate misinformation spread by the capitalistic vultures who controlled society. So off to China she went and lo and behold it was an evil repressive police state where the individual meant nothing and peoples lives depended on the good will of greedy materialistic bureaucrats. Poorly written book but sounds like some people on DAves.
So government in West is not perfect so anything they say about North Korea is flawed. Okay. So anything said by the North must be true. Is that it??? |
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CentralCali
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Soldiers doing horrible things = demoracy is fascism??? or something. You keep interjecting things about the U.s. and soldiers into a thread about North Korea. Why do you think the stories about North Koreans being forced to mourn are untrue. Not Iraq, not U.S. soldiers but North Korea. Focus!!
To many people who have read the fantastical lreporting of the North news agency for years we believe little they say. Strange behavior in that country is nothing new. it is required you bow correctly at stues of the Kims or face severe punishment for instance. Other countris like China also report the same forced crying and mourning. Why do you think it is untrue. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| Stout wrote: |
The website reporting this isn't exactly known for its even-handed treatment of issues.
For one, it's stated purpose is the "democratization of North Korea".
Gee, wonder who founded it to begin with 
May as well consult FOX news on any improprieties regarding Republicans. |
agreed...the western news sites pick up on Korean news reports and then report it as fact. |
Unless the interviews in Nothing to Envy and Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader were completely false, punishing people for unenthusiastic mourning is to be expected.
| CentralCali wrote: |
| rollo: Stout, being the communist she obviously is, would be incredibly disappointed to discover that the DPRK isn't actually communist at all; it's just another dictatorship. |
Dictatorship is overly generous. It's the world's last vestige of feudalism.
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Thousands of North Korean refugees are liars I guess.  |
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