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itiswhatitis
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:16 am Post subject: Re: Canadians who need an RCMP check from within Korea READ |
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itiswhatitis wrote: |
http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/korea-coree/assets/pdfs/CRC-AVC-2011.pdf |
Damn... it sucks when the government of Canada/Canadian embassy get it wrong.
Canada is not a party to the apostille treaty.
You cannot get an apostille on your CRC.
An apostille is NOT needed for Canadians.
In place of the apostille....
You MUST however either get the Korean consulate certification done in Canada ($4.50 + postage)
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Complete a statutory declaration form prepared at the Embassy.
There is a fee of $50 CAN or the Korean Won equivalent for the service.
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:33 am Post subject: |
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This is the first I heard of the statutory declaration. Though it's too late now anyway, it would have saved me some hassle to know it existed. Immigration said I had no choice but the embassy/consulate in Canada. |
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CPT
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:43 am Post subject: |
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I heard the statutory declaration form may not be accepted by immigration.
Can anybody confirm/deny?
I'm waiting on an RCMP check, and I'd prefer to just pay the $50 than have my family run around getting it confirmed. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:52 am Post subject: |
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CPT wrote: |
I heard the statutory declaration form may not be accepted by immigration.
Can anybody confirm/deny?
I'm waiting on an RCMP check, and I'd prefer to just pay the $50 than have my family run around getting it confirmed. |
As of last December they still accepted it for an RCMP check.
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:47 am Post subject: |
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WOW.
This whole thing is so confusing - even 2 or 3 years later. Everyone has a different opinion or experience on how to get these documents.
The names of documents or the process are confused and mixed up.
People can't get a handle on what to do about criminal record checks or which police agency to use or whether they need finger prints taken or not. Some people have reported that it only took 4 days to obtain a criminal record check from a city police department while others have claimed that it has taken them up to 4 - 6 months for the same report produced by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
Now I'm hearing that city police departments in Canada will only conduct criminal record checks for those people who are residents of those cities. Edmonton, Winnipeg and Vancouver are examples of city police departments who now only conduct criminal record checks for their residents. These are the same reports produced by the RCMP but they are a lot quicker than the RCMP. So if you're from a town or city that only has the RCMP then you will be facing at least a month - 6 months wait for your criminal record check.
Is there not a single website that breaks it down step-by-step with up to date and accurate information for Canadians?
This is ridiculous. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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IF there was only one way to do it then it might be possible.
Since there are as many ways to do it as there are towns in Canada... such a database would never be complete or accurate.
Bottom line however has not changed:
CPIC (national) database check issued by a Canadian Police Service
It must be either:
i) Korean consulate (in Canada) certified or
ii) a statutory declaration affixed at the Canadian Embassy in Seoul.
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nachoinkorea
Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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We've had issues with Immigration in Busan & Daegu not accepting sworn affidavits / embassy stamps on background checks, for multiple countries (US, Ireland, Canada, etc.) They keep saying it's not "official", whatever that means.
However, if you are working in Seoul both Immigration and the Ministry of Education will accept background checks from all 7 countries eligible for E-2 visas that have been stamped by the person's respective embassy. We have been doing this since 2008 (again, in Seoul) without any problems.
For Canadians, you don't have to get an RCMP check. You can provide a local police check or a provincial police check as long as it goes through the national database and it clearly says this on the background check. Of course, if you want to get an RCMP check that is fine too, but it can take up to 4 months to process.
And yes, Canada is not a signatory to the Hague Convention on Apostilles so you either have to get your documents stamped at the nearest Korean diplomatic post in Canada (for background checks & diplomas) or at the Canadian Embassy in Seoul (background checks only). |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
Bottom line however has not changed:
CPIC (national) database check issued by a Canadian Police Service
It must be either:
i) Korean consulate (in Canada) certified or
ii) a statutory declaration affixed at the Canadian Embassy in Seoul.
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That works for me. Simple enough.
I just called the RCMP near Calgary and they said it could take up to 10 days. Not bad, really. I guess it depends on where and when one applies for their criminal record check. I know several people from Vancouver and Winnipeg who got their's from the city police forces in 3 - 4 days. Very quick turn around time.
Regarding the notarization of academic documents - can the university transcripts be notarized instead of the B.A. degree?
What I mean is, could I just obtain a copy of my official, academic transcripts and have them notarized and use them to obtain my work permit instead of submitting a notarized B.A.degree?
Or does immigration have to see a notarized degree? |
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Wildbore
Joined: 17 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Shimokitazawa wrote: |
ttompatz wrote: |
Bottom line however has not changed:
CPIC (national) database check issued by a Canadian Police Service
It must be either:
i) Korean consulate (in Canada) certified or
ii) a statutory declaration affixed at the Canadian Embassy in Seoul.
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That works for me. Simple enough.
I just called the RCMP near Calgary and they said it could take up to 10 days. Not bad, really. I guess it depends on where and when one applies for their criminal record check. I know several people from Vancouver and Winnipeg who got their's from the city police forces in 3 - 4 days. Very quick turn around time.
Regarding the notarization of academic documents - can the university transcripts be notarized instead of the B.A. degree?
What I mean is, could I just obtain a copy of my official, academic transcripts and have them notarized and use them to obtain my work permit instead of submitting a notarized B.A.degree?
Or does immigration have to see a notarized degree? |
Think for a second. Usually transcipts come in sealed envelopes from the educational institution, and are invalid if the seal is broken. Why would anyone accept the transcript not in the original sealed envlope (notarized or not). Secondly, transcripts are not proof a degree has been conferred, just a list of the courses you took.
Also, submitting transcripts is already part of the step for degree verification (affixing the consular seals to the degree). |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, sorry, dumb question and badly worded.
I guess I was hoping that I could just submit the 2 copies - one being notarized the other sealed, or whatever.
At any rate, the original has to be submitted for verification. |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
CPIC (national) database check issued by a Canadian Police Service. |
Are fingerprints required for this criminal record check or is it just a matter of obtaining the CPIC print out from any police service?
Some people have reported not doing any fingerprints for their criminal record check while other teachers have. Obviously, processing the fingerprints will take a lot longer.
Can anyone clarify this? |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Shimokitazawa wrote: |
ttompatz wrote: |
CPIC (national) database check issued by a Canadian Police Service. |
Are fingerprints required for this criminal record check or is it just a matter of obtaining the CPIC print out from any police service?
Some people have reported not doing any fingerprints for their criminal record check while other teachers have. Obviously, processing the fingerprints will take a lot longer.
Can anyone clarify this? |
I can. I did a local check based on name (no fingerprints) and it was fine (after stamped by the Korean consulate in Canada). |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. I just got off the telephone with the Korean Consulate in Vancouver and the clerk there said that they do not require any checks that involve fingerprints.
I also called Vancouver Police today and the woman there said that finger prints were required.
Then, at gone2korea website, they report that fingerprint-based criminal record checks are required:
Link: http://www.gone2korea.com/background-checks.html
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Canadian CRC Requirements for Teaching in Korea ▼
Canadian teachers MUST secure National level FINGER-PRINT based checks from the RCMP. Providing citywide or provincial level checks will not be accepted by the Korean Immigration Office, likewise, name and DOB based checks are no longer accepted. |
littlelisa,
You report using a name based check, this contradicts the information reported at the above website and what the Vancouver City Police clerk told me today.
I believe it worked for you.
But man, what a convoluted process. I'm just baffled at how complicated this has become. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Walk into any RCMP detachment in the lower mainland and get it done.
By name, DOB and ID or electronic prints - makes no difference.
Often done at the counter but they may take you to the back if their print reader isn't in the front.
If not done with prints, the clerk at the desk will hand you an application.
Fill it in, show your ID, pay your fee and go home.
Pick it up in a day or 2.
IF you know someone at the detachment you can get it done in a couple of hours.
Take it to the consulate and get it stamped (sometimes same day, sometimes next day service).
Finished.
Ready in one day or 10 makes no difference (other than police service policy) in the great, grande scheme of life.
Done by prints or name/DOB/ID search = both acceptable to the consulate.
No muss, no fuss, no bother (other than the trip to the office to get it done).
Time to get off your keyboard, actually get it done and quit moaning about it.
It took you longer to read this than it actually takes to get it done.
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