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Hard Time w/ Dual Citizenship [Hagwon: No Benefits, PS: N/A]
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fullcollapseCA wrote:
Hey all!
I'm in a strange situation myself. I desperately want an F-4, but I can't offer proof of my parents surrendering their Korean citizenship because they are still Korean citizens and American citizens.
A little about me:
-24 year old male (American)
-Born in the US
-Not totally sure, but parents were US citizens at the time of my birth
-I have had an E-2 Visa and lived and worked in Korea for a year
- I have on the Korean family registry and was a dual citizen of Korea and the US up until I was 18.

Any way I can still apply for the F-4 visa? I have the paper that states that I gave up my Korean citizenship before I turned 18. Am I eligible for Korean citizenship without military duty? Thanks in advance!

Very Happy

That is a strange situation.
It would be unusual for your parents still have both. Dual nationality from Korea is only a very new thing. Korea would have forced them to renounce one if they took US citizenship in the past.

It sounds like second gen Korean-Americans are exempt per the other poster, so you may be fine even with Korean citizenship. that's really the only negative for taking it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
There's nothing at all wrong with my comprehension skills. And I don't give a hoot about your bloody feelings.


Central Cali and the other user. Please refrain from such attacks on each other, and leave this alone.

Thank you, Merci Beaucoup, Mille Grazie......

Have a Happy Seollnal!
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Stout



Joined: 28 May 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, as some posters have alluded to, in the long run you'll stand to gain more if you retain dual citizenship. I know someone who endured military service so he could qualify for a Korean pension after his working days are over.

And once you pass those exams and get lifetime employment at a public school? Boy, u will be the envy of anyone who's had to sweat it out hoping to be resigned or find a new gig at the end of a one or two year contract...basically everyone on this forum Idea
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pikadoopoo



Joined: 19 May 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stout wrote:
OP, as some posters have alluded to, in the long run you'll stand to gain more if you retain dual citizenship. I know someone who endured military service so he could qualify for a Korean pension after his working days are over.

And once you pass those exams and get lifetime employment at a public school? Boy, u will be the envy of anyone who's had to sweat it out hoping to be resigned or find a new gig at the end of a one or two year contract...basically everyone on this forum Idea

Thank you for the advice/encouragement!

I've pretty much come to accept my new citizenship. Even though I'll have a harder time at first, I'm sure it'll all pay off in the long run.
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aznhybrid



Joined: 18 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for making this thread, I am trying to begin the process of getting my F-4 visa and it seems I might be in your situation soon.

I was born in 1988, so I wasn't 22 by May 2010 (3 months off >.>), I am about to ask my cousin to mail me a copy of my family registry. I tried emailing my consulate but they were very unhelpful, I figure I'll just give them a call once I get my family registry. What I think might be different is that my mother was a korean citizen when I was born and my father is an american (I was born a US citizen and was never put on the korean registry).

I would love to become a dual-citizen but I'm afraid of running into the same problems as you (losing contract/not getting paid as much). I basically want to teach in korea to experience living there and hopefully making my korean better, but I also need to make money bc I have to pay my student loans while I'm working there (I have a B.S. and M.S) so I don't think I can survive on a lower pay and paying for my own housing.

have you found any position that would take you so far with your dual citizenship? I currently applied to YBM and 2 recruiters (Pegasus and Teach ESL Korea).
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pikadoopoo



Joined: 19 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aznhybrid wrote:
Thanks for making this thread, I am trying to begin the process of getting my F-4 visa and it seems I might be in your situation soon.

I was born in 1988, so I wasn't 22 by May 2010 (3 months off >.>), I am about to ask my cousin to mail me a copy of my family registry. I tried emailing my consulate but they were very unhelpful, I figure I'll just give them a call once I get my family registry. What I think might be different is that my mother was a korean citizen when I was born and my father is an american (I was born a US citizen and was never put on the korean registry).

I would love to become a dual-citizen but I'm afraid of running into the same problems as you (losing contract/not getting paid as much). I basically want to teach in korea to experience living there and hopefully making my korean better, but I also need to make money bc I have to pay my student loans while I'm working there (I have a B.S. and M.S) so I don't think I can survive on a lower pay and paying for my own housing.

have you found any position that would take you so far with your dual citizenship? I currently applied to YBM and 2 recruiters (Pegasus and Teach ESL Korea).

Yeah, I'm an 88'er and was born only a couple of months after the cutoff date. Haha. Ugh.

I don't think the dual citizenship thing applies to you because your father was and is a US citizen. I don't think you'll have any problems getting an F4 visa.

So far, I haven't found any positions that are willing to hire me or offer me the same benefits as an E2/F4 visa holder. One of my recruiters contacted me about a position with Topia that will gladly accept dual citizens, but it's a branch in Daegu. I would've taken it, but I have to be in either Seoul or Gyeonggi-do because of certain circumstances. If I get desperate, I'm just going to take whatever I can get and live in a goshiwon.

Good luck though. Smile
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