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ayahyaha
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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 Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| BackRow wrote: |
| Anyone who has managed to implement a discipline system that works in a hagwon setting gets a lot of credit. Other than letting a korean teacher know and maybe them calling the parents, nothing seems to work. The kids know they're virtually untouchable here in regards to what they can do around the foreigner. Best to focus on the normal students and keep your job as been said. |
I would have agreed with you earlier in my teaching career, at my first hagwon. After several years (in and out of Korea), though, I still believe that if we try to understand the students better we can manage our classes more effectively.
takwndogirl wrote a great primer on this exact topic above.
BUT...I do completely agree that it's really, supremely difficult to keep your cool and be consistent in hagwon working environment. It takes a lot of coffee and deep breaths. |
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ayahyaha
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| I give the kids points for good behavior and participation, and I minus points for minor infractions. Three points gets them a ticket, on which they can write anyone's name (presumably their own). The ticket goes into the ballot box, and every month I pull out five for some prizes. |
This is a great idea, especially because it spreads out the prizes (less personal investment from the teacher's pocket) and builds up incentive (more tickets = more chances at prizes).
How many points per class do you give on average?
What sort of prizes do you give?
Do you ever rig the drawing to spread out the winnings?
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For serious infractions, they get an X. An X is permanent, for the year. Three x's and a student gets a homework sheet, with this as the heading:
Date:
Write a journal. Tell me why your behavior was bad, and how you can avoid it in the future. It must be more than ____ words long.
__________________ 수업 시간에 나쁘게 행동했다. 그들은이 여분의 숙제를 완료해야합니다.
Then parents have to sign at the end. I also call home that same day to confirm it's been signed. I've only had to hand out one for the kids to get it. |
This is extremely useful and I'm copying it for future possible use -- thanks for posting that. Translated into Korean, with a follow-up phone call from the Korean teacher -- that seems like it would do the job. |
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CPT
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Some very good ideas in this thread.
Love the idea of writing minutes allotted for a fun activity on the board and adding or subtracting when appropriate. I've always kind of done that unofficially, but writing it on the board makes it real, as opposed to just telling the kids "if you keep fooling around, there will be no time to play a game." I'd possibly remove the real troublemakers from the activity, having them write lines or something before they can join in the game.
One thing I wanted to point out about a "fun" disciplinary system is that it can occasionally become even more of a distraction. A lot of times the kids acting up will be the ones seeking attention, and if the punishment is not really a punishment, they may actually treat it as a reward. |
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ayahyaha
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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And then there are the exceptions. Today, case in point: One kid would not stop hitting/poking/generally messing with the kid next to him. I moved him to a seat by himself for a few minutes, but then when we started a team game, I called him to the front of the room and made him "신판" (not sure of spelling, but that's what the kids say for something like "judge").
He had to ask reading comprehension questions to each team and decide if their answers were correct. He's ahead of the class, and easily bored, and therefore this worked a lot better than disciplining him for misbehaving. He got extra practice and he controlled the game very well when given the responsibility.
| CPT wrote: |
| One thing I wanted to point out about a "fun" disciplinary system is that it can occasionally become even more of a distraction. A lot of times the kids acting up will be the ones seeking attention, and if the punishment is not really a punishment, they may actually treat it as a reward. |
Good point. A distracting disciplinary system can kill all effectiveness for sure.
When I said "fun" I was thinking (as in the OP) of the yellow card/red card (and now green card) system I am making up. A bit dramatic, but hopefully not too much so. |
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