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Shimokitazawa



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Time to get off your keyboard, actually get it done and quit moaning about it.

It took you longer to read this than it actually takes to get it done.


Kind of a nasty side to your personality.
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cheolsu



Joined: 16 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need a fingerprint-based check. I just got a local police check (Peel police will do it for you while you wait) stamped by the Korean consulate in Toronto.

I'm willing to be proven wrong in this case, but often recruiters are just full of it.
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Shimokitazawa



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheolsu wrote:
You don't need a fingerprint-based check. I just got a local police check (Peel police will do it for you while you wait) stamped by the Korean consulate in Toronto.

I'm willing to be proven wrong in this case, but often recruiters are just full of it.


I believe you. I've met other Canadians who have also reported not having to give their fingerprints.

However, I called the Vancouver City Police today and the woman there said that I'd need my fingerprints taken for the criminal record check.

The information available is so convoluted and everyone seems to be acting on different and often wrong information.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimokitazawa wrote:
cheolsu wrote:
You don't need a fingerprint-based check. I just got a local police check (Peel police will do it for you while you wait) stamped by the Korean consulate in Toronto.

I'm willing to be proven wrong in this case, but often recruiters are just full of it.


I believe you. I've met other Canadians who have also reported not having to give their fingerprints.

However, I called the Vancouver City Police today and the woman there said that I'd need my fingerprints taken for the criminal record check.

The information available is so convoluted and everyone seems to be acting on different and often wrong information.


All you discovered is that VPD uses prints when they do a check. So does the Edmonton Police Service and they take a week to return.

The information is neither confusing nor convoluted.

Ya, I do have a nasty streak when some <insert expletive of your choosing> comes on here and makes statements that are intended to be misleading and/or confusing just to be a troll.

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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not all places are created equal. Some cities will allow a check done through mail. Some will need certain documents. Others have different procedures. Some will need to you pick up in person. Another might provide a webpage to check out which can not be stamped/verified. Also things change. Winnipeg Police used to be the place for esl teachers here in Korea. Not anymore.

My Calgary one needed no fingerprints. I did from here in Korea. Through a Korean notary to certify a copy of my birth certificate and passport was a little touchy (touch expensive). But I got a CRC in about two weeks.

It comes to a certain point you have to stop planning and figuring out and just do it.

You could have be yayad. Person on the phone or counter likes to do things one way, any other way becomes a NO. Or simply put just did not want to deal with you and was curt and simple.

You should try again with the words "Police Certificate" rather then "Police Check".

Also gone2korea is a recruiter site. Compare the procedures on the various recruiters sites and you will get a thousand variations. For example Canadians will need an apostilled CRC. Which is not possible. Another says only an RCMP check. No other city checks are possible. Some recruiters do not really know the procedures, others the information is old. In the end the best places on the right way is Korean Government sites ala consulate for your area and the Immigration site. PLUS ttompatz. He is the resident expert.

As to tompattz. You be nice to him! He has probably helped more idiots, helplessand newbie people then most posters here. Heck he has probably done more help then an English speaking immigration official on a good day. He maybe curt and even sometimes a little nasty but a nasty helpful person is better then nothing.

Also it is people like you OP that warped him. Tom used to be a lot more verbose and helpful. But after a couple years of people asking the same questions over and over and freaking over again he has got abrupt. I am still amazed he is still posting.
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Shimokitazawa



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went down to the Vancouver Police Department this afternoon and was told that it would take a minimum of 3 weeks to complete the report. No finger prints needed.

However, the Vancouver Police will not just do a CPIC check, they will perform checks in several other data basis including their local VPD data base, PIRS and several other data bases. These other checks aren't required by Korean Immigration but Vancouver Police do them anyways - in fact, applicants don't have a choice.

The cost is $70.

Again, they'll only do the checks for city residents and ask for proof of residency when you go in to do the check.

An RCMP Detachment that I called a few days ago said that they could probably do it in 10 days. I think they said it would cost about $40.

So, there really is no consistency in terms of cost and turn around time and the types of data bases that the different police services check, although they all do a CPIC check.
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Shimokitazawa



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
Tom used to be a lot more verbose and helpful. But after a couple years of people asking the same questions over and over and freaking over again he has got abrupt. I am still amazed he is still posting.


Skippy,

I'm sure I don't need to tell you this, but he doesn't have to post here. He does it because he wants to. But, if ttompatz has problems being civil to people on a forum, then he needs to shut if off for a while and take a break.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimokitazawa wrote:

However, I called the Vancouver City Police today and the woman there said that I'd need my fingerprints taken for the criminal record check.


Shimokitazawa wrote:
I went down to the Vancouver Police Department this afternoon and was told that it would take a minimum of 3 weeks to complete the report. No finger prints needed.


1 call, 1 visit(?), 2 answers diametrically opposed to each other but I am curious how someone in Kamloops just popped into the VPD headquarters (where they actually do the CBC application) "this afternoon" and made it home by 3pm to post?

Last time I was in Van. it took more than 3 hours in daytime traffic just to get from downtown to Chilliwack never-mind up the Coquihalla Highway.

So did you actually apply for your CBC or are you still convinced that it is so difficult and convoluted. If you think that part is confusing you haven't seen anything yet.

1) go to police station.
2) apply for CBC
3) receive CBC
4) go to K-consulate and get certification stamp
5) add to other documents and apply for job.

6) NOW the convoluted part starts.

42) fly to Korea.

And while you are suggesting that I take a break you might also want to start your own thread next time instead of hijacking a thread (this one was about obtaining the CBC when someone is actually IN KOREA, not Kamloops (there is a difference).

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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimokitazawa wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Tom used to be a lot more verbose and helpful. But after a couple years of people asking the same questions over and over and freaking over again he has got abrupt. I am still amazed he is still posting.


Skippy,

I'm sure I don't need to tell you this, but he doesn't have to post here. He does it because he wants to. But, if ttompatz has problems being civil to people on a forum, then he needs to shut if off for a while and take a break.


No he doesn't have to post here. But be thankful that he does. Because if he was not here I would say things would be worse. Tom is one of these that carries the board. For everybody and YOU. Has he not answered your questions? Here is what would happen if you did not have Tom. You ask question. If lucky you get one or two posts saying something that has a half answer or useful to your problem. But likely not. You would then proceed to get get confused. More information breeds more confusion. So you ask for more help. Nobody answers. You get frustrated and then either try something else or go on the defensive. You would then curse ESL cafe as an unhelpful place.

Overall Tom point is just get it done. Shit or get off the pot. Ya it can be maddening dealing with this. Throw in conflicting information. Basic government red tape. Lazy or unhelpful bureaucrats. Not wanting to waste time or money with one way or another. But sometimes you can be surprised how easy things go when you actually.... just do it. I do that sometimes. Make something that should be a little difficult more complicated. But come a point your just have to do it. Yes sometimes I have failed at it, but more often then none, things went off pretty well without a hitch.

Plus I am confused? You are trying all these various ways to get a CRC. Where the hell are you? I mean you asked an RCMP place near Calgary or was it the Calgary Police. You have asked the Vancouver police. Do you live in a small town or are you just to busy during that day? In the END you are LUCKY. You are in Canada. For people (who this thread was for) have it ten times harder. Plus more expensive.

Once again I suspect you are being YA-Ya-ed. I find anytime you call somebody, they do not want to deal with you. They will give the basics and what they think or know off the top of their head. Very rarely will they work hard for you, more so with government, think DMV. People will give the one stock answer. Very, very rarely you will get the "BUT, YOU CAN".... You will find that very few people will do hand holding and soothing "there, theres". Most people will want to get you off the phone so they can get back to there other work, game of Solitaire, enjoying there cup of coffee.

It is not that hard. Go to nearest RCMP detachment. Repeat NEAREST RCMP. Not your local police! Go to the main office for said area. Ask at the front desk for a POLICE CERTIFICATE not criminal record. You want a NAME CHECK. They will tell you what to do? Fill in paper, give money/show ID, listen to clerk when to get. Pick up, then proceed with Vancouver Korean consulate to verify, which can be done through the mail.

Fingerprints will not need to be done unless their is a conflict. Like you share the same name and birthdate with a criminal.

Please also check out this thread. Some of the later pages will have some helpful advice for maybe your AREA, where ever the hell that is.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=204589&highlight=
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Shimokitazawa



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz,

You're really having a meltdown here. Time for you to step away from the forum.

At any rate, I went in to the Richmond RCMP this afternoon and obtained the check in 10 minutes. What I received is called a Canadian Police Certificate. Cost was $56.25 and I got two copies. My understanding is that it is just a CPIC check and nothing else.

Vancouver City Police said that it would take minimum 3 weeks to process their check and they search PIRS and several other data bases they have access to. The cost is $70.

The other RCMP detachment in Calgary I checked with a few days ago said it would take about 10 days to process at a cost of about $40.

So it really depends on where you have your criminal record check done in terms of how long it takes and cost. Ironically, even though the RCMP are often reported as taking a lot longer, the Richmond Detachment was the quickest turnaround time.

So now it's just a matter of getting the documents notarized and then going over to the Korean consulate in Vancouver and having them verified.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good - you got it done. It was not that hard. What you got was the name check aka Police Certificate. For us in Korea are only (usually) choice is a fingerprint check which has to go Ottawa and takes about 4 months to be processed.

Also why all the checking around. All this hassle to save maybe 20 dollars and/or get it quicker? Never mind the couple of days you spent calling around and posting here?

Also why call the Calgary RCMP. The RCMP is a national organization. I am surprised the RCMP in Calgary did not just say to you go to the nearest detachment and get it done.
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Shimokitazawa



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Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I learned another thing here.

I had a second copy of academic transcripts notarized for about $30 today that I thought I had to include with the official, sealed academic transcripts and notarized photocopy of my degree. I got to the Korean consulate and the clerk told me that the second set of notarized transcripts were not needed. They merely needed the official, sealed academic transcripts.

So, if anyone is about to make the same mistake I did...just the official, sealed academic transcripts are required.


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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you did not open up all of them! Or Hope the consulate was understanding!

Come on you knew the transcripts had to be SEALED. It even states on the Vancouver consulate site! (The most clear of all Canadian consulates)
http://can-vancouver.mofat.go.kr/english/am/can-vancouver/visa/university/index.jsp

Quote:
One sealed university transcript (must be most recently issued and it will NOT be returned)



That is why it is good to get many transcripts. You can be surprised who wants one and it sealed.
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