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Adventurer

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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:30 am Post subject: Using movies in the classroom |
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What's your take on using movies in the EFL classroom?
I am generally against it. I see it as excessively wasting the time of the students. I would only use a movie if I first prepped them by introducing certain vocabulary words, did some assessment prior to showing the movie, explained some things they'd see in the movie etc....
I remember being told when I went to teacher's college that it wasn't good to use films in class. I think if you're going to show a movie, it's better to show certain clips and explain certain things before they see the movie. I once showed a movie when I taught French because my director asked us to do that, and I tried to make it as educational as possible, but I didn't think it was very useful for 101 students. They did learn some things because I prepped them before hand. However, they were only in French 101, so there's only so much they could get from it. The following year, we weren't required to show a movie. |
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yfb
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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If it's the end of the semester, the students are antsy and won't listen to anything you have to say anyways. Might as well play the movie with some attempt to tie it to English teaching. |
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LAtoSeoul
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Depends how you use it. If you just play the movie until the bell rings, then that's bad.
If you are going to play a movie, I would puase every scene. Have them explain what is going on in each scene. The plot, feelings, why they did this and that. Have them explain the scene in English. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Location: You're the man now dog!!
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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I have tried different approaches.
1) Multiple choice and essay questions. This is good for higher level students.
2) Questions for certain parts of the movie. This is good for showing a 1.5 hour movie in 40 minutes. You ask questions and then play 10-20 minutes of the movie. The downside is that students don't like this give and take style of presenting material. When they are going to see a movie, they want you to press play and not stop or pause it.
3) To deal with this, I take screenshots of the movie instead. You can also get movies with subtitles in the students' language. Often times, you can get it so there is both their language and English. Talk about what is happening in the movie and ask questions based on each screenshot. After that, I play 15-30 minutes of the movie. Students don't seem to mind this because they can see a continuation and progress in the movie. I was teaching American history, and I used 2 movies in one class this way. You can also add pictures into your lesson/presentation and it doesn't negatively affect things.
4) Another thing I do is give students a worksheet to fill out while they watch. They have to write out all the character names as they hear them and nicknames those characters are called in the movie by their friends or family. They have to find a funny or sad part of the movie and write out a few words they they don't know. If they can, have them write out any expressions they hear. This could be a repeated phrase a character uses. If they have time, they talk about one of the characters.
5) With the Mr. Bean videos, I outline what happens and get keywords that represent whatever actions happen in the video. Then, after playing we go over them. Students try to make sentences. This is good for intermediate level students. The higher level students get bored and the lower level ones are confused. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Would you generally avoid showing it to beginner level students?
I haven't shown my students movies. I was thinking of showing one that had cultural relevance, but I changed my mind. I questioned the educational value of showing a whole movie to beginners. I can understand it can be entertaining, and I might do it if the students requested it, and it was at the end of the term. How much would beginner students get from pausing the movie when their comprehension is limited? I thought about showing a bunch of kids a movie. I, then, changed my kind because I thought it would be wrong. |
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edwardcatflap
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Movies are just a resource like any other. You probably wouldn't do a reading or a listening activity that lasted a whole lesson so why show a movie for the same time? There are loads of ways you can use this kind of resource. Some of them could be adapted for beginners. They probably wouldn't get much from the actual dialogue in the movie, though you could use the actions and what they thought the actors were saying to generate language. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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edwardcatflap wrote: |
Movies are just a resource like any other. You probably wouldn't do a reading or a listening activity that lasted a whole lesson so why show a movie for the same time? There are loads of ways you can use this kind of resource. Some of them could be adapted for beginners. They probably wouldn't get much from the actual dialogue in the movie, though you could use the actions and what they thought the actors were saying to generate language. |
Those are my sentiments exactly. Some folks I know do show movies, and I don't think they're truly thinking of their students needs when they do that. I think showing a movie one time for fun is okay, but showing 2 or 3 when they really need to learn a lot of English does them a disservice. |
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cj1976
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I only show movies at the end of the semester or in camp as a special treat. After the movie, I hand out some quiz questions about the movie and give prizes to the winner. There's nothing wrong with letting the kids unwind after months of stress. |
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iggyb
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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I've used video a lot before and like it, but you have to do more than just press play.
I use it like you would a reading text. I start and stop the clip frequently. I ask a lot of questions - varying what is asked by level of the class. Comprehension questions - vocabulary questions - and whatnot.
Because of how frequently we stop to talk about it, it is much better to use TV shows and ones that run for 30 minutes. We never watch the whole show. I'll use my computer to cut it down to a few short scenes I think the class will be able to describe or that will provide useful vocabulary.
The basic idea is: Video gives everyone in the class the same basic foundation. They all see the same thing. They all have that visual comprehension.
If I tailor the questions to the class level well, and I use the white board to write key words, phrases, sentence patterns, and whatnot.....Then the students learn useful things in a way that is more real-world than what they get in textbooks or a written text.
For beginning level, I might stick to vocabular: What is that? What color is that? What is he doing?
I like focusing on verbs with beginning level, and visual material provides a good opportunity to connect the word with its meaning.
With intermediate and higher level classes, I'll ask more comprehension questions starting with things like, "Is he a good boy/guy?" "Why is she angry?" "Why are they laughing?" With the highest level classes, I'll ask them to translate very short segments or I'll play longer clips and have them explain it to me like I couldn't understand a word.
With classes where all the students speak the same language, I've used TV shows in their language and had them tell me what was going on.
That has usually been very sucessful, because they like teaching the teacher. Since they understand the clip 100%, they also have more to work from in terms of trying to find something useful to say about it in English.
It helps if you can watch the show with English subtitles ahead of time or have someone explain it to you. If you know the show well, but pretend you don't, you can help the class out when they start getting stuck in their explanation of what you are seeing.
The way I did it at first was to have my advanced level Korean adult classes go over it with me. At the end of using it with them, I'd know much about the clips. Then I'd use it with the lower levels.
Now that I think about it, I might do this with 4th-6th grade for graduation week.
When I've done this before in the hakwons, there was resistence from the Korean staff because the show is in Korean, but once they saw how I used it, they came around.
I'm leaving Korea at the end of these last 2 1/2 weeks of non-class classes, so I'll put up with resistence from my CTs if they offer it... |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Location: You're the man now dog!!
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Would you generally avoid showing it to beginner level students? |
Of course. Beginner level students can connect more with you visually than with words. So, you need to give them as many visual cues. The point here is not to teach everything they see, that is too overwhelming. Focus on regular patterns or target grammar points. Prepositions would be a good lesson for beginners. Add verbs. Use nouns with both. I would prefer learning a language this way than memorizing a list from a book. |
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iggyb
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Like YTMND said, a useful thing about video is it gives every student a foundation to work from because it is visual.
Everybody uses PPTs with images to teach vocabulary. Video connects just as well. And it can be much better than images when dealing with some verbs, adjectives and adverbs.
And students are more willing to watch than read.
I have some trouble with students who are used to mindlessly watching a video with teachers who don't stop and start all the time. When they are used to a video being shown meaning they don't have to study...
...but that's life. I tell them it is a classroom and if they want to watch video clips, it has to be useful in developing their ability. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:14 am Post subject: |
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iggyb wrote: |
Everybody uses PPTs with images to teach vocabulary. |
No, not everybody. Striking, effective, memorable lessons are fully achievable without ever dimming the lights to watch a screen. |
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iggyb
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:07 am Post subject: |
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I don't dim the lights, and its a little facile to dismiss the explanations of effective use of multimedia described above as watching a screen.
Frankly, a teacher who doesn't use multi-media in the classroom these days is like one who never uses the whiteboard. Why would you cut out so many effective tools? Especailly given today's students who are honed to multi-media?
What do you use as an alternative to a screen? Do you print images? Rely on images from the textbook?
Some years, I've had to make do without multimedia equipment in the classroom. Yes, certainly, effective lessons can be done without its use, and I do activities and other things that require no use of technology...
But if you have such tools in the classroom, and you don't use them, it makes no sense to me - especially the lower the level of the class or the more mixed in levels it is.
This is why teacher-training degrees these days require a course of technology in the classroom. In my home state in the US, all teachers have to pass a basic technology test - no matter how long they've been teaching. If they fail it X number of times, they have to take a remedial technology in the classroom course.
Not integrating techonology into classroom education today is like playing basketball while refusing to use one arm... |
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schwa
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Just noting that not "everybody" uses ppt to teach. Its not essential to putting forth a good lesson (to which you agree) & I do see problems with some who figure snazzy ppt is the be-all of teaching & are at a loss without it.
Anyway not to derail the thread. Back to the movies. |
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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I've used video a lot before and like it, but you have to do more than just press play.
I use it like you would a reading text. I start and stop the clip frequently. I ask a lot of questions - varying what is asked by level of the class. Comprehension questions - vocabulary questions - and whatnot. |
Yes, but if the students you have are technical high school students and some are much better than others, you may lose many by showing a video in terms of getting them to understand the video. The same students initially thought I speak very fast.
I don't, actually. To help them, I paused for quite a while after each utterance to give those beginner level students more time to process the information and see if they could get what something meant.
I have used youtube videos, and I've stopped them. I also used word to type many things that were said. I paused to see what they understood and tried to ensure they understood certain vocabulary words. Doing that with short video clips is easier than with a whole movie.
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Because of how frequently we stop to talk about it, it is much better to use TV shows and ones that run for 30 minutes. We never watch the whole show. I'll use my computer to cut it down to a few short scenes I think the class will be able to describe or that will provide useful vocabulary. |
I agree there. It can be useful to show short movies or shows.
I do believe in the usefulness in showing clips or parts of movies or shows. I have done that. I've only done a few minutes worth because the students were technical high school students. If you had very, very basic students how long of a video would you show?
I mean how long would the clips be for students of that level? What kinds of TV shows do you use?
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The basic idea is: Video gives everyone in the class the same basic foundation. They all see the same thing. They all have that visual comprehension.
If I tailor the questions to the class level well, and I use the white board to write key words, phrases, sentence patterns, and whatnot.....Then the students learn useful things in a way that is more real-world than what they get in textbooks or a written text. |
How does video exactly give the students the same foundation more than something else? I did the same thing you did with short videos from youtube. I used word to do that, and I enlarged the writing. I think short video clips do encourage more students to pay attention. It's hard to ignore video clips unless someone's showing you a long movie in English, and you can't understand much English. In that case, some would fall asleep. Videos are good for bringing the culture of the target language. That's why I used short youtube video clips. The vocabulary was generally hard for the students, but it got easier after they saw the same video several times. I'm not sure how easy it is to get video clips that are ideal for very basic students.
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For beginning level, I might stick to vocabular: What is that? What color is that? What is he doing?
I like focusing on verbs with beginning level, and visual material provides a good opportunity to connect the word with its meaning.
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What videos do you use that focus on verbs? I did use a song/video that had the lyrics for Waltzing Matilda, and I used the song to illustrate the past tense. What videos have you found that are short that are suitable for learners? |
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