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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Julius wrote: |
If some teenage girl is coerced or comes under strong pressure to work in order to pay of daddys gambling debt, is then saddled with indebtedness...or for lack of education has no other option..then...is that really voluntary? |
Gambling in Korea is illegal. Problem solved. |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
I sincerely hope all involved that were in violation of their visas by participating in political activity are promptly deported.
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:56 am Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
I sincerely hope all involved that were in violation of their visas by participating in political activity are promptly deported.
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How is reporting crime classified as "participating in political activity"? |
It depends on how it's done, and from the picture, I'd say it's a safe bit there were several gyopos in the crowd so they're probably fine on F4s.
When I say picture, there were other articles that had a shot of them walking down the street, all asian faces. |
The problem is they probably don't belong to TJ's club or didn't inform/ask him first. |
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english puppet
Joined: 04 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Occupy Hooker Hill
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:06 am Post subject: |
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| It could be religious people doing this, but more likely it's a group of people tired of foreigners being blamed for the massive prostitution industry in Korea, so they want to get it all shut down so Koreans can't continue to blame them for Korea's massive sex trade. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| It could be religious people doing this, but more likely it's a group of people tired of foreigners being blamed for the massive prostitution industry in Korea, so they want to get it all shut down so Koreans can't continue to blame them for Korea's massive sex trade. |
Do foreigners really get blamed for this? You might get the occasional guilty ajossi who blames foreigners for the hookers he visits, but the vast majority of Koreans I know are very familiar with what goes on here, both male and female. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Do foreigners really get blamed for this? You might get the occasional guilty ajossi who blames foreigners for the hookers he visits, but the vast majority of Koreans I know are very familiar with what goes on here, both male and female. |
Yes, I often hear it blamed on foreigners in general, with the Japanese particularly assigned a disproportionate share of the blame. |
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english puppet
Joined: 04 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| Reggie wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Do foreigners really get blamed for this? You might get the occasional guilty ajossi who blames foreigners for the hookers he visits, but the vast majority of Koreans I know are very familiar with what goes on here, both male and female. |
Yes, I often hear it blamed on foreigners in general, with the Japanese particularly assigned a disproportionate share of the blame. |
I've never heard it blamed on foreigners but I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a longer term historical association with the military bases and the comfort women issue? I'm not saying it's a fair or logical connection but it may exist on some level for them? |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Let's go back to the one of the main parts of the article shall we...
They were picking up hooker cards off the street.
How effective is that supposed to be?
Some poster mentioned that young men use prostitutes in Korea. It's a fact that men of all ages, even seniors, engage in the industry.
Agreed that this article is one of the silliest pieces of tripe that's been posted on this forum or even been published in Korean newspapers.
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goreality
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Japanese modernized prostitution in Korea during the colonial period.
As for simply calling the numbers up, usually they are cell phones which are probably registered under names that wouldn't be the people answering. Gangs often run these establishments and gangs also lend people money. People who owe gangs money must do them favors, like allowing them to open bank accounts, credit cards, commercial retail spaces, and phones registered under their names.
These poor suckers already have enough problems, as do the people working in the physical establishments, without being forced by the police to reveal who the real criminals are. They possibly only know middle men as well.
Organized crime often runs in circles and the prostitutes are only some of the victims. Imagine having to borrow 10,000$ to support your family or gambling habit. Then you are told open us up a bank account, rent this place out, and get a few phones and internet service. "Pay back the money now or do us a favor, or we will kidnap your children and harass you."
Furthermore, when busting these places lists are often found of all the people who used these services. These lists can include influential people who want to be free from blackmail and enjoy bribes and services for protection.
With legal prostitution, organized criminals lose one more source of revenue. Since it has been made illegal, gangs and pimps have thrived and prostitution has only become more dangerous for both the prostitute and the user.
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Swampfox10mm
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:04 am Post subject: |
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(and you've now edited it)
This only applies to people who can vote in elections. Not all foreigners. This is mainly for F5 visa holders being allowed to publicly support candidates, nothing else. It's got zero relevance to this. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| goreality wrote: |
Japanese modernized prostitution in Korea during the colonial period.
As for simply calling the numbers up, usually they are cell phones which are probably registered under names that wouldn't be the people answering. Gangs often run these establishments and gangs also lend people money. People who owe gangs money must do them favors, like allowing them to open bank accounts, credit cards, commercial retail spaces, and phones registered under their names.
These poor suckers already have enough problems, as do the people working in the physical establishments, without being forced by the police to reveal who the real criminals are. They possibly only know middle men as well.
Organized crime often runs in circles and the prostitutes are only some of the victims. Imagine having to borrow 10,000$ to support your family or gambling habit. Then you are told open us up a bank account, rent this place out, and get a few phones and internet service. "Pay back the money now or do us a favor, or we will kidnap your children and harass you."
Furthermore, when busting these places lists are often found of all the people who used these services. These lists can include influential people who want to be free from blackmail and enjoy bribes and services for protection.
With legal prostitution, organized criminals lose one more source of revenue. Since it has been made illegal, gangs and pimps have thrived and prostitution has only become more dangerous for both the prostitute and the user. |
I don't want to advocate the decriminalization of prostitution, but it appears that if prostitution is very underground and is not regulated, it may be easier to exploit the women who end up as prostitutes. Those who simply say the answer is simply "Don't cheat on your wife or girlfriend" do ignore that so many single men frequent them regardless of what brought the women into the trade, and since there's no regulation, it's easier to mistreat those women. They have no protection. I'm all for men being faithful to their wives, girlfriends, and single men finding girlfriends rather than going to prostitutes and for prostitution to disappear, but I could wish pigs could fly. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| Reggie wrote: |
| It could be a group of people tired of foreigners being blamed for the massive prostitution industry in Korea, so they want to get it all shut down so Koreans can't continue to blame them for Korea's massive sex trade people doing this, but more likely it's religious people. |
Fixed that. Look at the names of the people involved, and if indeed its filled with Gyopos and Asian-Americans, odds are this either a religious-based group or a volunteer group.
Do you really think Jamie Lee and Kristen Singletary feel that they are blamed for the massive prostitution industry?
Really, 50 expats, many female, got together and said they were tired as being labeled as part of the problem of prostitution and decided to do this?
Or are they more likely concerned young women who likely see this is a gender-rights issue and combating the exploitation of women. Possibly coming together with other like-minded people at say, a volunteer group, or a church. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Korea is the land of the elephant in the corner of the room.
The country has so many huge issues and uncomfortable truths that everyone pretends not to notice, and gets very upset with you if you mention them. |
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