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Adventurer
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| I use olive oil for frying, but not on very high heat. If you're frying meat you don't really need much oil for that. There are fats with the meat, I'd say. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
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| It remains that there is a link between weight and heart disease...and what happens when you eat a lot of food rich in fats? |
My skin looks amazing? There are many kinds of fats. |
You miss my point, which is that being 20% overweight or more has been linked to heart disease. Drinking a liter of olive oil a day won't do you any good. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
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| It remains that there is a link between weight and heart disease...and what happens when you eat a lot of food rich in fats? |
My skin looks amazing? There are many kinds of fats. |
You miss my point, which is that being 20% overweight or more has been linked to heart disease. Drinking a liter of olive oil a day won't do you any good. |
But a tablespoon or two a day will. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| To the person asking: canola is healthier than grapeseed, but canola sometimes imparts a slightly fishy taste on the food, while grapeseed doesn't. It's a negligible difference, though, so I use canola when making popcorn on the stove. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
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| It remains that there is a link between weight and heart disease...and what happens when you eat a lot of food rich in fats? |
My skin looks amazing? There are many kinds of fats. |
You miss my point, which is that being 20% overweight or more has been linked to heart disease. Drinking a liter of olive oil a day won't do you any good. |
But a tablespoon or two a day will. |
Since when do people deep fry in just a tablespoon of oil? |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| It remains that there is a link between weight and heart disease...and what happens when you eat a lot of food rich in fats? |
My skin looks amazing? There are many kinds of fats. |
You miss my point, which is that being 20% overweight or more has been linked to heart disease. Drinking a liter of olive oil a day won't do you any good. |
But a tablespoon or two a day will. |
Since when do people deep fry in just a tablespoon of oil? |
You are arguing with a person that just drizzles some oil on stuff and bakes it.
So, to her, you do deep fry with only a tablespoon of oil. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:20 am Post subject: |
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I fell for that, but my cholesterol shot up 60 points in less than a year. Yes, my hdl went up, but my ldl went up a lot, as well. Since stopping coconut oil consumption 2 months ago, it's gone down 20 points.
I'd rather just drizzle some canola oil or grapeseed on something and bake it, or do a stir fry. It is super healthy? Nah. It's healthier than deep frying, though. Olive oil's smoke point is too low, and it tastes terrible when frying. Extra virgin olive oil should be eaten at room temperature or not much hotter. |
I apologize if I have mislead you in any way. Obviously, it didn't work for you.
A lot of these things depend on your personal make-up. Not everyone's body responds in the same way. There are doctors and arguments on both sides. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
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| It remains that there is a link between weight and heart disease...and what happens when you eat a lot of food rich in fats? |
My skin looks amazing? There are many kinds of fats. |
You miss my point, which is that being 20% overweight or more has been linked to heart disease. Drinking a liter of olive oil a day won't do you any good. |
But a tablespoon or two a day will. |
Since when do people deep fry in just a tablespoon of oil? |
You are arguing with a person that just drizzles some oil on stuff and bakes it.
So, to her, you do deep fry with only a tablespoon of oil. |
Not arguing, just pointing out that some people will be stuffing themselves with fried chicken cooked in sunflower oil thinking they are getting a healthy meal. It's kind of like people who drink diet cola when they eat at fast food restaurants. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| Not arguing, just pointing out that some people will be stuffing themselves with fried chicken cooked in sunflower oil thinking they are getting a healthy meal. It's kind of like people who drink diet cola when they eat at fast food restaurants. |
True enough, but eating good quality free-range chicken fried in good quality, non-hydrogenated vegetable oil would be healthy enough (even if plenty of oil were used). Eating hormone injected factory farm chicken, deep fried in the partially hydrogenated trans-fat laden crud used in fast food chains, on the other hand, will kill you over time. It does make all the difference.
Really, it's the trans fats that kill people. Cholesterol can be an issue as well, but not as much. |
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ricochet
Joined: 04 Sep 2011
Location: carpetbagging...
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| To the person asking: canola is healthier than grapeseed, but canola sometimes imparts a slightly fishy taste on the food, while grapeseed doesn't. It's a negligible difference, though, so I use canola when making popcorn on the stove. |
thanx...not only for the advice but for calling me a 'person.' i'm here gawddamit! i'm a human, too...  |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| It remains that there is a link between weight and heart disease...and what happens when you eat a lot of food rich in fats? |
My skin looks amazing? There are many kinds of fats. |
You miss my point, which is that being 20% overweight or more has been linked to heart disease. Drinking a liter of olive oil a day won't do you any good. |
But a tablespoon or two a day will. |
Since when do people deep fry in just a tablespoon of oil? |
You are arguing with a person that just drizzles some oil on stuff and bakes it.
So, to her, you do deep fry with only a tablespoon of oil. |
Sorry, I was talking more about oil than the method used. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
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| Not arguing, just pointing out that some people will be stuffing themselves with fried chicken cooked in sunflower oil thinking they are getting a healthy meal. It's kind of like people who drink diet cola when they eat at fast food restaurants. |
True enough, but eating good quality free-range chicken fried in good quality, non-hydrogenated vegetable oil would be healthy enough (even if plenty of oil were used). Eating hormone injected factory farm chicken, deep fried in the partially hydrogenated trans-fat laden crud used in fast food chains, on the other hand, will kill you over time. It does make all the difference.
Really, it's the trans fats that kill people. Cholesterol can be an issue as well, but not as much. |
You seem to be ignoring my point. Eating a lot of fried food leads to obesity, and obesity is associated with a considerable decrease in life expectancy. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| You seem to be ignoring my point. Eating a lot of fried food leads to obesity, and obesity is associated with a considerable decrease in life expectancy. |
I'm not really disagreeing with you... I would point out that eating a lot of any caloric food would lead to obesity; and processed foods laden with simple sugars and partially hydrogenated oils are a lot worse (and will make you obese a lot faster). But I'm certainly not saying a person should eat a whole cup worth of olive oil at each meal either; although in general I wouldn't really worry about it too much. Healthy oils are healthy for your body, as long as you use common sense and consume in moderation (and even if you can't help yourself from pigging out, at least you won't get all the trans fats you get from hydrogenated oils). That's all... |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Since when do people deep fry in just a tablespoon of oil? |
Never pan fried anything? |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:08 am Post subject: |
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My Grandad used to have a full English in the morning fried in lard and he then drizzled the lard in the pan onto a piece of toast and eats it.
I had a friend once who was kinda spaced out a lot. Did too much drugs. We both used to do weights a lot.
One day I met him and he was in his kitchen drinking cooking oil out of the bottle. I asked him what the hell he was doing and he replied
"I want to get a job as a bouncer so I'm drinking a bottle of oil everyday for the protien and eatin a lot of bread."
True story. Man did he get weird just before I stopped hanging with him.. |
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