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Ondol (floor heater) vs. Electric Fan Heaters
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seoultee



Joined: 11 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Ondol (floor heater) vs. Electric Fan Heaters Reply with quote

I received my electric bill this month and it was 121,000 won. That seemed really high to me. I use my ondol approx 4 hrs per day and turn it off before going to bed.

Would an electric fan heater be recommended to save money and take the edge off of the bitterly cold nights?
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently they're much more expensive.
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Joined: 11 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people have recommended getting a heating pad that you put on your bed. I don't know what it's called in Korean.


Anyone know? The electric heaters won't save you money, I'm afraid.
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I use my ondol approx 4 hrs per day and turn it off before going to bed.


If you turn it off, you risk freezing the pipes and causing damage (especially in the middle of the night). Don't tell your employer you have done this. It's kind of late to worry about the heat issue, January is over. Weather is going to get warmer from now. I have found blankets to work when there wasn't sufficient heat.

Another thing to look at is how warm you are setting it. It should be cheaper to have it it set low and you leave it on. Then you just bring it up a bit when you come home. You could turn it down before sleeping, but not off. It's not a microwave. Don't blast your room and then turn it off because heat will dissipate if cut off from a source.
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seoultee



Joined: 11 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YTMND wrote:
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I use my ondol approx 4 hrs per day and turn it off before going to bed.


It's kind of late to worry about the heat issue, January is over. Weather is going to get warmer from now.


That's what I was afraid of. I actually have a heating blanket so I may use that instead just so I can sleep alright.
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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My last bill was for 180,000 but it was to be expected.

I haven't switched my ondol off for a month. I turn it up to 22-25 degrees when home, and turn it back down to 17 degrees when sleeping or going out.

I've sometimes used my portable electric heater for 20 mins in the morning when it's been a bit chilly and also at night on a few occasions but not for long periods.

I also have an electric blanket on my bed, which I switch on for 10 mins before I go to bed. Leaves me feeling nice and toasty.
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seoultee



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Savant wrote:
I haven't switched my ondol off for a month. I turn it up to 22-25 degrees when home, and turn it back down to 17 degrees when sleeping or going out.


Really? And your bill was only 180k? I wonder how that can be.

What if I turned it on at a very low level for a few hours before going to bed and then turn it off? I just want to take the bite out of the air because once I'm in bed I'm pretty much fine because I wear warm clothes.
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Savant



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoultee wrote:
Savant wrote:
I haven't switched my ondol off for a month. I turn it up to 22-25 degrees when home, and turn it back down to 17 degrees when sleeping or going out.


Really? And your bill was only 180k? I wonder how that can be.

What if I turned it on at a very low level for a few hours before going to bed and then turn it off? I just want to take the bite out of the air because once I'm in bed I'm pretty much fine because I wear warm clothes.


I don't live in a big apartment so I guess my bill reflects that.

I don't think ondols were built for a stop/start action. Although, I did live in a place where I could set a period of time for my ondol to turn on at e.g
turns on every 4 hours for 1 or 2 hours etc.
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seoultee



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm going to put the heat on at a low temp to take the edge off, then turn it off before bed. I'll also turn on the heating blanket to toast up the sheets before I go to bed. This should get me through the night without a cold nose in the morning.
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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh folks, its your gas bill that will show your ondol usuage not your electric bill 90% of us have gas water heaters, unless you are using one of those electric space heaters a bunch your electric bill wont go up much this winter
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I remember correctly, it cost me about 70 US per month to heat my bedroom to 21 degrees using a panel heater with a thermostat. For me it was quite a bit less than what the ondol would have cost. The ondol I was using used heating oil. Unless you're staying in Korea you have to consider the cost of buying the panel heater, It was pretty expensive.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending where you live, costs to heat your home can vary widely.

Officetels and apartments seem to be far more expensive compared to older villas. I can't remember what the rates are now, but if you run an electric heater in an officetel or apartment very much, be prepared to pay through the nose. And there's a certain limit you hit where suddenly the price of your electricity jumps exponentially.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hogwonguy1979 wrote:
uh folks, its your gas bill that will show your ondol usuage not your electric bill 90% of us have gas water heaters, unless you are using one of those electric space heaters a bunch your electric bill wont go up much this winter


Where the heck is the "thumbs up" icon???

I live in a 16 pyeong apartment. I turn my heat on once a day (this year anyway...it's been so mild!) for about an hour, then turn it off. The residual heat in the floor keeps the apartment warm enough. My December bill was 30,000.

How warm do you keep your place?? Unless you're a senior citizen, you really don't need it warmer than 18C! Just put on more clothes! Do you REALLY need the temp at 22 or more?? If you do, then be prepared to pay the price.

Talk to Mom and Dad and ask them how much THEY pay for heat in the winter and you'll be glad that you're paying as little as you do!!
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YTMND wrote:
Another thing to look at is how warm you are setting it. It should be cheaper to have it it set low and you leave it on. Then you just bring it up a bit when you come home. You could turn it down before sleeping, but not off. It's not a microwave. Don't blast your room and then turn it off because heat will dissipate if cut off from a source.


Yeah, I found that my bills were much more expensive last year, as I generally turned it either way down or entirely off when I left for work. This year I've left it at 19 whenever I'm out of the house, and generally around 23 when I'm home, and my place has been significantly more comfortable while my bills have been markedly lower. Generally speaking, the heat doesn't have to run in order to keep it above 19.

ajuma wrote:
How warm do you keep your place?? Unless you're a senior citizen, you really don't need it warmer than 18C! Just put on more clothes! Do you REALLY need the temp at 22 or more?? If you do, then be prepared to pay the price.


18C? Seriously? Bundle up be damned, that's pretty freaking cold.

hogwonguy1979 wrote:
uh folks, its your gas bill that will show your ondol usuage not your electric bill 90% of us have gas water heaters, unless you are using one of those electric space heaters a bunch your electric bill wont go up much this winter


Everyone I know in my area that has any control over their heat has had electric heat (officetels).
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At 18, I'm comfortable. At 16, I turn on the ondol!

What do you keep your air con at in the summer?
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