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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ
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If my students are really good I let them choose three numbers from the (CHULSOK) attendance book and the lucky chosen ones get to sweep, mop the floor and empty the trashcan.
Seriously I rarely give out prizes in the form of food, rather I mark on a spreadsheet I keep displayed in my classroom exception behaviour, participation etc and update it weekly so the students can follow their progress. I do the same with the lazy, quiet kids that don't do jack. That way everyone knows what to expect on their report card twice a semester. 75% of my students really try hard in class to try to get one of my bonus points. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:15 am Post subject: |
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If the kids are spending so much time studying that they don't have time to eat, do you think your kindness should subsidize their parent's stupidity?
Also, if you are feeding your kids as a bribe for enrollment and job security, both you and your director are *beep*.
If you want to give your kids food out of random niceness or as part of a lesson, that's fine. The other reasons aren't good reasons. |
Get over yourself. |
I am.
Children should come to school ready to study, not ready to eat.
If I was an inner city volunteer for underpriveliged kids there might be a good reason for kids showing up hungry.
If they are always hungry then it should be the school not your paycheck that is doing something about it, especially if it is a matter of them dropping or not. As far as job security, do you think it's your problem if your boss is an ass and fires you because your kids dropped? If your boss is this type, change schools. All of this is even more applicable if they are so fickle they drop because they don't get a candy every now and then and isn't actually an issue of hunger.
There is fun and then there is stupidity.
It used to bother me that at my old school there was a praise system for whoever hosted the most 'events' for their students such as ice cream day or pizza day. If the school foots the bill, fine. If I foot the bill, well happy students is all I ask for. If I don't fit the bill and neither does the school, and another teacher is buying food, am I a bad teacher? No. |
Dude, you sound like you've only ever worked a lot of really sh_itty jobs in your life.
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| phaedrus wrote: |
If the kids are spending so much time studying that they don't have time to eat, do you think your kindness should subsidize their parent's stupidity?
Also, if you are feeding your kids as a bribe for enrollment and job security, both you and your director are *beep*.
If you want to give your kids food out of random niceness or as part of a lesson, that's fine. The other reasons aren't good reasons. |
However Mr. Phaedrus, some people can't teach and therefore feel they have to give the kids candy in order for job security. Let's not be too hard on Mr. mindmetoo. After all he has to put food on the table somehow. |
I can teach. I can also enjoy my job and enjoy springing a rare surprise on my kids. It's that simple, really. |
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
Dude, you sound like you've only ever worked a lot of really sh_itty jobs in your life. |
I consider all hagwons sh|tty, so yes.
My issue is more of expectation and necessity.
No one should expect the teacher to provide treats or food. Neither the children, the boss, or anyone.
Children should not come to class hungry. I used to hate teaching 5:30 classes, because the kids were starving and couldn't concentrate properly.
That said, it is fine for the teacher to give food. It is just my belief the teacher should be able to do this out of kindness and goodwill. The only reward necessary should be the happiness of the students. |
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