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orbison
Joined: 27 Sep 2011
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:45 am Post subject: Help! Urgent advice needed. |
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Basically, I am in Korea, ready to go on a visa run and my documents (apostilled diploma + police check) have disappeared from my girlfriends house!!
I would laugh too, if I wasn't busy going mental.....
Before I am forced to return back to my home country to start again, I have a few questions.
After I got the two documents apostilled I made a number of two sided photocopies of them both which I still have.
Will I be able to use for immigration purposes???
Advice please!! |
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orbison
Joined: 27 Sep 2011
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: |
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One more thing. Last month I also did a visa run to Japan, for a C-4 visa (camp). Is there any chance of getting the apostilled documents returned.
I know how ridiculous this sounds but I am desperate  |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Location: You're the man now dog!!
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Can you change your visa to the ultimate Batman belt lifesaver option (D-10)? |
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cincynate
Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Location: Jeju-do, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Those documents should have been turned in in Korea before you leave for Japan. The person (business) who is sponsoring your work visa should turn those into immigration so you can get your Visa Issuance Number, which they you go to Japan. Talk to Korean immigration. The consulate in Japan doesn't care anything about documents.. just your passport/application/pictures/fee |
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orbison
Joined: 27 Sep 2011
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Sory, I should have said that I am just about to send my documents to my employer before I head to Japan. Not going to Japan just yet.
I will talk to my employer and immigration tomorrow.
Also, I should point out that my C-4 isn't up untill March 14th, but I thought that if I want to get replacements documents, I should return home as soon as possible.
My new job starts on March 1st at a Uni.  |
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:12 am Post subject: |
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OK and what else disappeared from your girl friends house because I think the market on blackmarket criminal record checks is very small.
GF have a ex-boyfriend with access or do her mom and dad have access to apartment. Well with one quick move can separate you two. Does GF like drama! Wow watch how my boy runs around when I hide these papers? In a couple more days I can find them and he can then treat me to some shopping! Or is she trying to find a simple way to break up with you.
Well to not be a complete jerk. Have you ever submitted your degree for any other previous E-2 visa. Has it been properly verified at those times. I could see immi letting the degree not being needed as it was done in the past. As to the CRC. Well you are on a C-4. Which if I am correct does not need to be verified or appostilled. Still where they? If they where then maybe immi might keep them on file but I highly doubt it.
Korean Immigration might let previous work BUT they have a tendency to lose computer files (there one month, gone the next, and back) and a complete avoidance of logic and reason.
You might be able to convince immigration but it could take a whole lot of explaining. You need a good Korean translator and a good day to convince immigration, plus I think some knees pad and a passport stuffed with some 50,000 bills might get you a reprieve.
Good Luck man! |
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orbison
Joined: 27 Sep 2011
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Ha, I think I am safe from those things. A spot of pre-Seollal cleaning is looking the most likely culprit!
My degree has been verified a number of times so will look into it. I hope something can be done |
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orbison
Joined: 27 Sep 2011
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to keep pressing, but I have a few extra questions that might help speed up the process if answered.
To save time I am looking to sacrifice an original diploma ( I can always get a replacement). Am I right in thinking that I will not have to get this notarized and I can go straight to the next step of getting it apostiled?
Secondly, is it possible to use an MA diploma instead of a BA, for the visa process? My MA is at my parents home so this could be sent of tomorrow to get apostilled.
I am a non-US citizen so my CRB check does not take too long. (A couple of weeks)
Advice on these thoughts would be welcomed. Thanks |
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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The original diploma used to be the way it was done. But now they want it verified/apostilled because of fakes and forgeries.
Sacrificing the degree well is not worth it here. Can not you not just send it to a in home country lawyer/notary, to be stamped and that. Must be some service for your country.
I would think getting degree verified would be quicker then CRC. Just quick will be costly.
Also your transcripts will be difficult. Note: Always get EXTRA's!
Have you called/visited immigration. You might get a do not worry about the degree. Still even if you get a pass consider getting it done anyways.
I still think if you have done an E-2 before hand and have submitted a previous degree (verified/aposstilled) you can skip that. Even maybe the CRC too if it was the proper one. But as you said you are on a C-4 the CRC used in those do not need to be verified.
Your problem comes when it comes time to process you, the people who will applying you will expect to just do the process the easy way of just submitting everything in.
I think I also maybe wrong as you will likely be doing a visa run. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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IF you submitted the FBI check with apostille and apostilled degree for your C4 then you should be fine to get an E2 visa confirmation number (kimmi will have them on file).
If you did not then you need to start again to get them
Kimmi will NOT take copies of the FBI check nor will it accept an original degree in lieu of the certified true copy with the apostille.
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orbison
Joined: 27 Sep 2011
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:28 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Skippy and ttompatz!!
When I applied for the C-4, both were apostilled when handed in to the Japanese embassy.
[b]Skippy[/b] if by 'verified', you mean prior to getting the visa issuance number and not in Japan, I am not sure and would have to ask my recruiter.
[b]ttompatz[/b]-Does having the visa issued in Japan alter anything?
And finally, is there a particular Seoul immigration ofice i should visit to receive the most relevant advice or should it be through the district office of my Camp?
Thanks |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:34 am Post subject: |
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orbison wrote: |
Thanks Skippy and ttompatz!!
When I applied for the C-4, both were apostilled when handed in to the Japanese embassy.
Skippy if by 'verified', you mean prior to getting the visa issuance number and not in Japan, I am not sure and would have to ask my recruiter.
ttompatz-Does having the visa issued in Japan alter anything?
And finally, is there a particular Seoul immigration ofice i should visit to receive the most relevant advice or should it be through the district office of my Camp?
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The office where you have your file (the one local to the camp in all probability) or the office where you plan to work (the ones who will process your change of status or issue your visa confirmation number).
The visa in Japan, if that is where you handed in your CBC and DEGREE may delay the process but shouldn't make any significant difference in trying to change your status from C4 to D10 or E2.
If you actually received a visa confirmation number for your Japan run then all is good. They (the hard copies) are on file in Korea.
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:47 am Post subject: |
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When I mean the CRC is verified is for Canada and the US is people who apply for a C-4 did not have to submit a verified one. IT was so people who where working for a short time did not have to jump through a lot of hoops.
BUT as you said both where verified.
YOUR problem is going to be communication. School or immigration will be be expecting A...B...C... Asking them to go A... C.... B.... G... will cause their heads to explode or no them likely go..... NO NO NO A..B..C...
So speak slowly, repeat many times, dumb it down, keep your cool, and hope to high heaven that your can get a lateral thinking whitey wrangler. |
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orbison
Joined: 27 Sep 2011
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Cheers guys! |
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