Korean Job Discussion Forums

[the_curious]

I was curious about the average salary for a non-tenure track assistant professor (not teaching English; all of the information I could find was about university English instructors). Is there anyone on this board who knows?

[Swampfox10mm]

Well, that depends if you're talking Ph.D or not.

My best advice would be to search the job ads. That'll give you a good idea. Our school posts pay amounts in US dollars for those jobs.

[Malislamusrex]

3 million-ish.

with an MBA.

[sonicmatt]

what about visiting professors? sorry to hijack the thread, just curious since i am about to sign the contract and thats our job title.

[Malislamusrex]

Titles are meaningless.

I don't teach English at the university, but because they needs a certain amount of professors in each department my title is professor.

[ttompatz]

Back in 2002 I was earning ~40 million in salary and benefits with a class load of 12 hours and 4 office hours. I am ABD.

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[the_curious]

[ttompatz]

[sonicmatt]

true, but i would be willing to bet a title of "assistant professor" or "visiting professor" looks much better on a resume than "english language instructor" or "english teacher"

[Swampfox10mm]

According to our recent ad, visiting profs with a ph.d get around 3.45 plus housing. MA's start around 2.6.

MA's teach 15 hours base with OT after that. Ph.ds teach 9 and might have to publish once a year.

[Paddycakes]

Question for all you "Visiting Professors".

Do you actually put this on your resume when you go back home?

I just have this vision of guy interviewing for a job at a call center in the US somewhere...

Interviewer: "So the job pays $11/hr and you'll be responsible for marketing our new line of products on the phone. Please tell me about your last job..."

Former ESL Teacher: "Well, I was a visiting professor... In fact, I've even been published by the Hogwan-University Press.... you've no doubt heard of them...."


To me, if you have a MA or PhD from a recognized university (none of these dubious so-called MA's done via the internet thing which back home I'm sure would be laughed at by a real university), and you actually "worked" as a professor at a western university and you are on some kind of sabbatical teaching in Asia... then sure you're a 'Visiting Professor'.


When I think of "Visiting Professor'... I think of some guy from Harvard.

[ttompatz]

For academic purposes or when I am presenting at a conference I put it on my resume or introduction as Adjunct Professor (which is what I in fact was - both in Korea and at home).

When applying for jobs it really does matter on the where I am applying but I usually list it as instructor / lecturer (much less pretentious and more accurate than "Professor") and the name of the institution.

I don't feel the need to be so pretentious as to use the singular title "Professor" (which actually carries legal status in most commonwealth countries and a lot of continental Europe- reserved for someone who holds a chair).

Or to put it another way, a corporal may command a company in battle (if all the others more senior to him are out of communication) but that doesn't make him a Captain. At the end of the day he is still a corporal.

Titles for regular faculty (and faculty with special or temporary appointments):

i) Distinguished Professor or University Professor (Distinguished Professor Emeritus, University Professor Emeritus)
ii) Professor or Full Professor (Research Professor, Visiting Professor, Adjunct Professor, Professor Emeritus)
iii) Associate Professor (Research Associate Professor, Visiting Associate Professor, Adjunct Associate Professor)
iv) Assistant Professor (Research Assistant Professor, Adjunct Assistant Professor)
v) Lecturer or Instructor (Sessional Lecturer or Sessional Instructor)

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[PRagic]

Take a look on The Chronicle of High Education's jobs page. Korean universities often post on there and sometimes they post the starting salaries, too. From what I've seen, the entry level positions at many universities aren't all too competitive, even if you do have your completed Ph.D. in hand. For any assistant prof slot I know of, you MUST have a completed Ph.D. in hand in addition to at least a year of experience (gained AFTER the completion of the Ph.D.).

Think I recall seeing 45-50 million or so as the starting salary for an econ position somewhere.

A lot of Korean universities insist that a 'new Ph.D.' do a year in rank as a full-time lecturer before even being granted the assistant professor slot. Less pay, more work, and they reserve the right to dump you after a year. What a crock.

[Paddycakes]

[Paddycakes]