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So Just HOW BAD are things 'back home?'
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:30 am    Post subject: So Just HOW BAD are things 'back home?' Reply with quote

Okay a lot of threads on this and another forum have posters mentioning how bad it is back home and how this has affected their plans or decision to stay on in Korea etc.

So just how bad is it jobs / economy wise in YOUR home country.

From personal experience only, not hearsay.
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pedrotaves



Joined: 02 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

same old, same old. obama is a communist trying to force feed kids nutritious food, the illuminati run the world through a series of group meetings in the bohemian grove, and politicians are secret reptiles.
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EarlGray



Joined: 07 Feb 2012

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on where you're located, but things are getting better overall. Some of is still just the hangover. I heard people complain about a terrible economy, but they all had jobs that paid fairly well.

In the deep South, it's still quite bad. But I think some of that has to do with a region of the country that's always been fearful of too much education that wasn't "Bible learnin'" and they somehow expect to be middle managers by the time they turn 30 with just their GED.

All, and I mean all, of my friends from university are working. Many of my high school friends that decided against getting a degree are on unemployment. Funny though, my friends that dropped out of high school at 16 are working, be it at menial back labor jobs fixing cars and mowing lawns.
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duke of new york



Joined: 23 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EarlGray wrote:
It depends on where you're located, but things are getting better overall. Some of is still just the hangover. I heard people complain about a terrible economy, but they all had jobs that paid fairly well.

In the deep South, it's still quite bad. But I think some of that has to do with a region of the country that's always been fearful of too much education that wasn't "Bible learnin'" and they somehow expect to be middle managers by the time they turn 30 with just their GED.

All, and I mean all, of my friends from university are working. Many of my high school friends that decided against getting a degree are on unemployment. Funny though, my friends that dropped out of high school at 16 are working, be it at menial back labor jobs fixing cars and mowing lawns.


It's funny you should mention the South. I'm from Arkansas, and the effects of the recession have been miniscule there, even when it first hit. Northwest Arkansas is actually experiencing major growth, some of the most significant in the nation. All in all, it's not bad at all where I come from, and it never really was. If you are willing to work and realistic about the kind of job your experience and education can get, there are lots of jobs out there.

Also, I take a little offense to your comment about the whole region being "fearful of too much education that wasn't 'Bible learnin.'" There is some excellent higher education in the South. In fact, like I said, the South is doing pretty well, other than Atlanta and New Orleans. The major areas suffering from the recession are concentrated in California and northern states like New York and Pennsylvania. The big cities are the ones with the problems, and most of the South is not urban.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking to move "back home" (Canada) this summer and have already been offered a job in the field I'm aiming for.

/shrug

Let's hope it pans out.
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whiteshoes



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was home last month. It was ok. People were chugging along. It was a bit better than in the summer of 2010. I think the shock of everything was pretty high in 2010 still, but now people seem to have adjusted.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saskatchewan is supposedly booming. I've been working steady since I came back 2 years ago.

REGINA - Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall says the province's population growth is a remarkable comeback story.

New census data shows Saskatchewan has flipped from a period of population decline to above-average expansion in just half a decade.

Wall says job opportunities and lifestyle are the big draw.

He says the change has been amazing in places like the city of Martensville, where the growth has already outpaced the planned design for a new school.

Saskatchewan has set aggressive targets for its immigrant nominee program and Wall says even more could be done.

He says Saskatchewan needs the federal government to consider lifting caps that it has placed on such programs.
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rdb13



Joined: 06 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Manitoba the job situation isn't terrible except for educators and anyone in the non-profit sector.

I'm going to korea because I couldn't find a job that A) is in my field and B) pays enough for my student loan payments.
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's HORRIBLE! Not even this guy can get a job and he's unequivocally the most unflaggingly hard worker that he knows of (not to mention what he could bench)!

http://gawker.com/5883684/

His cover letter to J.P. Morgan:

Dear Sir or Madame:

I am an ambitious undergraduate at NYU triple majoring in Mathematics, Economics, and Computer Science. I am a punctual, personable, and shrewd individual, yet I have a quality which I pride myself on more than any of these.

I am unequivocally the most unflaggingly hard worker I know, and I love self-improvement. I have always felt that my time should be spent wisely, so I continuously challenge myself; I left Villanova because the work was too easy. Once I realized I could achieve a perfect GPA while holding a part-time job at NYU, I decided to redouble my effort by placing out of two classes, taking two honors classes, and holding two part-time jobs. That semester I achieved a 3.93, and in the same time I managed to bench double my bodyweight and do 35 pull-ups.
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stephent89



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm from Arkansas too and haven't noticed any change whatsoever.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rdb13 wrote:
In Manitoba the job situation isn't terrible except for educators and anyone in the non-profit sector.

I'm going to korea because I couldn't find a job that A) is in my field and B) pays enough for my student loan payments.


Why would the NP sector have taken a hit? Just curious. Sounds counter intuitive to me.
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SonomaJoe



Joined: 10 Oct 2011
Location: Santa Rosa, CA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OWS movement is reaching critical points of violence, mainly over people being so pissed at the lack of jobs. We've become a police state. Corporations control everything to a scary degree. People are being arrested for minor infractions increasingly. Attacks on journalists are increasing.

Anyone who thinks America's job situation is on the upswing is being optimistic. They keep fudging the numbers. Real unemployment is still near at least 15%. That's when you factor in people who stopped looking and people who only work ten hours a week.

I've seen people being beaten to within an inch of their life by the police for nothing. This country is on the verge of revolt. I'm not saying that is a good or satisfying thing. I'm a realist. This country is ready to explode if the job crisis doesn't get better.
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ren546



Joined: 17 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
Saskatchewan is supposedly booming. I've been working steady since I came back 2 years ago.

REGINA - Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall says the province's population growth is a remarkable comeback story.

New census data shows Saskatchewan has flipped from a period of population decline to above-average expansion in just half a decade.

Wall says job opportunities and lifestyle are the big draw.

He says the change has been amazing in places like the city of Martensville, where the growth has already outpaced the planned design for a new school.

Saskatchewan has set aggressive targets for its immigrant nominee program and Wall says even more could be done.

He says Saskatchewan needs the federal government to consider lifting caps that it has placed on such programs.


Be aware of what most of these opportunities are in. There are low-end jobs for immigrants (e.g. Tim Hortons), and a lot of people commute to AB for oil field work and build their mansions in Saskatoon and Regina. There isn't a lot in between. I was back in Saskatchewan last year and I was appalled at the lifestyle changes: everyone is so concerned with money, houses, cars, etc., so much so that the value of higher education has declined, and the educated are often left unemployed and forced to move elsewhere.
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rdb13



Joined: 06 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
Why would the NP sector have taken a hit? Just curious. Sounds counter intuitive to me.


Yes, it seems counter intuitive to me too. I don't think there are necessarily less NP jobs, but that particular job market is very saturated right now. Organizations are looking for people with experience. Grads with a masters in my field are having a hard time finding work, never mind my lowly bachelor's degree.

Granted - I could have picked a better degree. Hindsight is 20/20.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Masters Degrees in humanities are toilet paper back home for many. Far too many out there. Dime a dozen.

If you have experience in something electrical work or plumbing, then you can find work. And no, assembly-line jobs don't count as experience in these areas.
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