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shaunew
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Calgary
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| I can't speak for America, but in Canada I have applied for jobs and have had many offers. One thing that is against me is I'm overseas and they want to hire me immediately. I am on the last interview for TD bank. The job will double the income from my Korean salary. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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It depends on where you're located, but things are getting better overall. Some of is still just the hangover. I heard people complain about a terrible economy, but they all had jobs that paid fairly well.
In the deep South, it's still quite bad. But I think some of that has to do with a region of the country that's always been fearful of too much education that wasn't "Bible learnin'" and they somehow expect to be middle managers by the time they turn 30 with just their GED.
All, and I mean all, of my friends from university are working. Many of my high school friends that decided against getting a degree are on unemployment. Funny though, my friends that dropped out of high school at 16 are working, be it at menial back labor jobs fixing cars and mowing lawns. |
It's funny you should mention the South. I'm from Arkansas, and the effects of the recession have been miniscule there, even when it first hit. Northwest Arkansas is actually experiencing major growth, some of the most significant in the nation. All in all, it's not bad at all where I come from, and it never really was. If you are willing to work and realistic about the kind of job your experience and education can get, there are lots of jobs out there.
Also, I take a little offense to your comment about the whole region being "fearful of too much education that wasn't 'Bible learnin.'" There is some excellent higher education in the South. In fact, like I said, the South is doing pretty well, other than Atlanta and New Orleans. The major areas suffering from the recession are concentrated in California and northern states like New York and Pennsylvania. The big cities are the ones with the problems, and most of the South is not urban. |
Arkansas is the third poorest state in the Union. They were consistently from 2004-2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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It's HORRIBLE! Not even this guy can get a job and he's unequivocally the most unflaggingly hard worker that he knows of (not to mention what he could bench)!
http://gawker.com/5883684/
His cover letter to J.P. Morgan:
Dear Sir or Madame:
I am an ambitious undergraduate at NYU triple majoring in Mathematics, Economics, and Computer Science. I am a punctual, personable, and shrewd individual, yet I have a quality which I pride myself on more than any of these.
I am unequivocally the most unflaggingly hard worker I know, and I love self-improvement. I have always felt that my time should be spent wisely, so I continuously challenge myself; I left Villanova because the work was too easy. Once I realized I could achieve a perfect GPA while holding a part-time job at NYU, I decided to redouble my effort by placing out of two classes, taking two honors classes, and holding two part-time jobs. That semester I achieved a 3.93, and in the same time I managed to bench double my bodyweight and do 35 pull-ups. |
Strange, I thought that was exactly the kind of guy Wall Street likes to employ. Why did they find his letter so funny? Apart from the fact that he spelt 'Madam' wrong. |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Strange, I thought that was exactly the kind of guy Wall Street likes to employ. Why did they find his letter so funny? Apart from the fact that he spelt 'Madam' wrong. |
1. Madame is an acceptable spelling of the word.
2. While it doesn't approach what Aleksey Vayner claimed, it was the reference to physical abilities that threw it over the top. Vayner's list of accomplishments include:
He won two games against tennis great Pete Sampras, and taught Jerry Seinfeld and Harrison Ford to play
He is an expert in Chinese orthopedic massage
The Dalai Lama wrote his college recommendation letter
He was an action stuntman and professional skier
He is a professional model and has appeared in promotional ads for multiple clothing stores including Ann Taylor and Saks Fifth Avenue.
He worked for the Central Intelligence Agency
He is a master in the art of Tibetan bone-setting
He forged passports for the Russian Mafia
He participated in Tibetan gladiatorial contests
He is one of four people in the state of Connecticut certified to handle nuclear waste
He was the original developer of Napster |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Eastern Canada has always been crappy employment wise. Most people work for minimum wage or near to it regardless of their education and work experience (all jobs seem to pay the same regardless of what they are). My friend is a dental hygienist, a job which pays upwards of 50k per year elsewhere but only pays 20-25k per year in Nova Scotia. That's after many years of university with student loans and so forth. She's on the high end of the scale.
The problem is that Eastern Canada has always sucked in terms of employment, the recession just made people notice it. I think most people thought it was normal to crawl your way up to $14 an hour after ten years of hard work. I certainly did before I left the place.
The only ways out are to leave, work for the government or get lucky (ie: have rich family). The only high paying salary in Halifax that requires no post secondary education and is not a government job is RIM (Research in Motion). Not all of us are lucky enough to get RIM jobs (heh) though so many teach over here or go elsewhere.
I have more high school and university friends in Korea, the US, Europe and the Canadian West than I do in the same province we all grew up in. Sad, sad. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| He was the original developer of Napster |
Is that part actually true? |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| duke of new york wrote: |
| EarlGray wrote: |
It depends on where you're located, but things are getting better overall. Some of is still just the hangover. I heard people complain about a terrible economy, but they all had jobs that paid fairly well.
In the deep South, it's still quite bad. But I think some of that has to do with a region of the country that's always been fearful of too much education that wasn't "Bible learnin'" and they somehow expect to be middle managers by the time they turn 30 with just their GED.
All, and I mean all, of my friends from university are working. Many of my high school friends that decided against getting a degree are on unemployment. Funny though, my friends that dropped out of high school at 16 are working, be it at menial back labor jobs fixing cars and mowing lawns. |
It's funny you should mention the South. I'm from Arkansas, and the effects of the recession have been miniscule there, even when it first hit. Northwest Arkansas is actually experiencing major growth, some of the most significant in the nation. All in all, it's not bad at all where I come from, and it never really was. If you are willing to work and realistic about the kind of job your experience and education can get, there are lots of jobs out there.
Also, I take a little offense to your comment about the whole region being "fearful of too much education that wasn't 'Bible learnin.'" There is some excellent higher education in the South. In fact, like I said, the South is doing pretty well, other than Atlanta and New Orleans. The major areas suffering from the recession are concentrated in California and northern states like New York and Pennsylvania. The big cities are the ones with the problems, and most of the South is not urban. |
Arkansas is the third poorest state in the Union. They were consistently from 2004-2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income |
Arkansas and Mississippi are considered the two worst states to live in the U.S. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Most of my friends stateside have jobs. Good ones too. This is NYC by the way. |
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rdb13
Joined: 06 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Masters Degrees in humanities are toilet paper back home for many. Far too many out there. Dime a dozen.
If you have experience in something electrical work or plumbing, then you can find work. And no, assembly-line jobs don't count as experience in these areas. |
Trades are where its at right now.
Some humanities are more practical and slightly more useful (lucrative) than others. All humanities fields aren't necessarily toilet paper.
Counseling/social work > my degree > history. |
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duke of new york
Joined: 23 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| duke of new york wrote: |
| EarlGray wrote: |
It depends on where you're located, but things are getting better overall. Some of is still just the hangover. I heard people complain about a terrible economy, but they all had jobs that paid fairly well.
In the deep South, it's still quite bad. But I think some of that has to do with a region of the country that's always been fearful of too much education that wasn't "Bible learnin'" and they somehow expect to be middle managers by the time they turn 30 with just their GED.
All, and I mean all, of my friends from university are working. Many of my high school friends that decided against getting a degree are on unemployment. Funny though, my friends that dropped out of high school at 16 are working, be it at menial back labor jobs fixing cars and mowing lawns. |
It's funny you should mention the South. I'm from Arkansas, and the effects of the recession have been miniscule there, even when it first hit. Northwest Arkansas is actually experiencing major growth, some of the most significant in the nation. All in all, it's not bad at all where I come from, and it never really was. If you are willing to work and realistic about the kind of job your experience and education can get, there are lots of jobs out there.
Also, I take a little offense to your comment about the whole region being "fearful of too much education that wasn't 'Bible learnin.'" There is some excellent higher education in the South. In fact, like I said, the South is doing pretty well, other than Atlanta and New Orleans. The major areas suffering from the recession are concentrated in California and northern states like New York and Pennsylvania. The big cities are the ones with the problems, and most of the South is not urban. |
Arkansas is the third poorest state in the Union. They were consistently from 2004-2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income |
Arkansas and Mississippi are considered the two worst states to live in the U.S. |
Considered by whom? You? Have you ever been to Arkansas? As a native Arkansan, I can tell you firsthand that it is a great place to live. You will find people who have actually lived in Arkansas do not find it so distasteful; that is just hearsay from the types of people who think the South is some kind of third world country compared to the rest of the US. It may be one of the poorest states, but it is one of the poorest states in the richest country in the world. It's not exactly a cesspool of poverty or anything. And regardless of its financial position over the years, it has not been nearly as affected by the economic downturn as most of the country. You do know that Wal-Mart, Tyson and JB Hunt, as well as some other significant companies, are all headquartered in NW Arkansas, the area I am talking about? Some Walton descendant even just financed a major new world-class art museum in the area. It is, as I said, one of the most thriving areas in all the US. Every year it makes some list of top 10 cities in the US or something. It even made some travel magazine's list a few months ago of the top 30 travel destinations in the world.
If you don't want to live in Arkansas, I don't really care. To each his own. But I would appreciate it if you didn't make unfounded generalizations about the intelligence and quality of life of people in my state, which I strongly suspect you have never been to and know little about. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Strange, I thought that was exactly the kind of guy Wall Street likes to employ. Why did they find his letter so funny? Apart from the fact that he spelt 'Madam' wrong. |
2. While it doesn't approach what Aleksey Vayner claimed, it was the reference to physical abilities that threw it over the top. |
I thought it was the fact that he takes himself too seriously. In the UK it would be even more of a crime. Vayner was a Russian immigrant though so he was probably culturally unaware to some extent.
20 year-old masters of the universe live in the UK too. from yesterday:
City boys are ruled offside after rugby tour 'rules' email goes viral
The quartet of City high-fliers no doubt wanted to keep their wayward rugby tour antics under wraps.
But unfortunately, they made the mistake of emailing a list of their lurid �tour rules� to their friends.
Within days, the email went �viral� and it has now been seen around the world.
The four drew up their checklist ahead of their trip to the Dubai Sevens rugby tournament next month.
It included plans to have and photograph group sex acts, to chant about their wealth and drink heavily while being offensive to local residents.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098354/Public-schoolboys-rugby-tour-rules-email-goes-viral-We-boast-rich-are.html#ixzz1lzA9AjTP |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Be aware of what most of these opportunities are in. There are low-end jobs for immigrants (e.g. Tim Hortons), and a lot of people commute to AB for oil field work and build their mansions in Saskatoon and Regina. There isn't a lot in between. I was back in Saskatchewan last year and I was appalled at the lifestyle changes: everyone is so concerned with money, houses, cars, etc., so much so that the value of higher education has declined, and the educated are often left unemployed and forced to move elsewhere. |
This is true. There are jobs if you are willing to do anything, so I suppose not much has changed in Canada except the prices are higher. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:54 am Post subject: Re: So Just HOW BAD are things 'back home?' |
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Okay a lot of threads on this and another forum have posters mentioning how bad it is back home and how this has affected their plans or decision to stay on in Korea etc.
So just how bad is it jobs / economy wise in YOUR home country.
From personal experience only, not hearsay. |
Back here in Canada the answer is: it depends on your field of work really and on your province. |
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lithium
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| same old, same old. obama is a communist trying to force feed kids nutritious food, the illuminati run the world through a series of group meetings in the bohemian grove, and politicians are secret reptiles. |
Ditto. |
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lithium
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| EarlGray wrote: |
It depends on where you're located, but things are getting better overall. Some of is still just the hangover. I heard people complain about a terrible economy, but they all had jobs that paid fairly well.
In the deep South, it's still quite bad. But I think some of that has to do with a region of the country that's always been fearful of too much education that wasn't "Bible learnin'" and they somehow expect to be middle managers by the time they turn 30 with just their GED.
All, and I mean all, of my friends from university are working. Many of my high school friends that decided against getting a degree are on unemployment. Funny though, my friends that dropped out of high school at 16 are working, be it at menial back labor jobs fixing cars and mowing lawns. |
Doesn't your 3rd paragraph contradict your 2nd smart guy? |
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