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Record for Teaching on a Passport Without a Work Visa
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always learning



Joined: 10 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Record for Teaching on a Passport Without a Work Visa Reply with quote

I think the new teacher at my hagwon must have the record for teaching on a passport without a work visa.

He said he taught full time at a hagwon for two years before going legit and getting an E-2 visa with my institute. I thought it was risky, but he made it sound so routine. He even used a local bank account for monthly deposits.

He's British, so I'm guessing it must be easier for them to stay in the country long term and work under the table.

Note: I would still recommend against doing this but I was blown away by how easy he made it sound. Maybe the tight economy has created a market for teachers willing to work full-time at hagwons willing to take them on so they can avoid paying full benefits (like housing, pension and severance).
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Record for Teaching on a Passport Without a Work Visa Reply with quote

always learning wrote:
I think the new teacher at my hagwon must have the record for teaching on a passport without a work visa.

He said he taught full time at a hagwon for two years before going legit and getting an E-2 visa with my institute. I thought it was risky, but he made it sound so routine. He even used a local bank account for monthly deposits.

He's British, so I'm guessing it must be easier for them to stay in the country long term and work under the table.

Note: I would still recommend against doing this but I was blown away by how easy he made it sound. Maybe the tight economy has created a market for teachers willing to work full-time at hagwons willing to take them on so they can avoid paying full benefits (like housing, pension and severance).



I'm thinking he's pulling your leg.


To the best of my knowledge you need an ARC to open a bank account as well as your passport. How was he able to open a bank account to make deposits in the first place if he had neither an ARC or working visa?
That story just doesn't sound right.
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Record for Teaching on a Passport Without a Work Visa Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
always learning wrote:
I think the new teacher at my hagwon must have the record for teaching on a passport without a work visa.

He said he taught full time at a hagwon for two years before going legit and getting an E-2 visa with my institute. I thought it was risky, but he made it sound so routine. He even used a local bank account for monthly deposits.

He's British, so I'm guessing it must be easier for them to stay in the country long term and work under the table.

Note: I would still recommend against doing this but I was blown away by how easy he made it sound. Maybe the tight economy has created a market for teachers willing to work full-time at hagwons willing to take them on so they can avoid paying full benefits (like housing, pension and severance).



I'm thinking he's pulling your leg.


To the best of my knowledge you need an ARC to open a bank account as well as your passport. How was he able to open a bank account to make deposits in the first place if he had neither an ARC or working visa?
That story just doesn't sound right.


You only need a passport with some banks to open an account. You don't need an ARC.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.korea4expats.com/article-opening-a-bank-account.html

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You must visit the bank in person to open your account and bring your alien registration card.




http://www.esljobproject.com/esl_info/banks_korea.html

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What do I need to open a bank account in Korea?

To open a bank in Korea you will need your passport, working visa and alien registration card.



http://www.ehow.com/how_4826078_open-bank-account-korea.html


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Show the bank your passport.
2

Show the bank your working visa.
3

Show the bank your alien registration card.



http://www.worknplay.co.kr/korea-information/banking-and-money


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Opening a Bank Account
Bring with you your alien registration card and passport. Fill out the account application (many banks have English forms) and make a required minimum deposit to open an account. The minimum deposit may differ between banks, but is usually about 1,000 won.


(bolding mine)


I suppose it's possible though...mind giving us a couple of banks that do only ask for a passport? No unverifiable personal claims please...the names of the banks themselves will do nicely. Thank you.
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:


I suppose it's possible though...mind giving us a couple of banks that do only ask for a passport? No unverifiable personal claims please...the names of the banks themselves will do nicely. Thank you.


When i first came here I opened a shinhan account without an ARC.
It might behoove you to check with the actual banks rather than random ESL pages.
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etopkorea



Joined: 20 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also opened a bank account when I first came here (KEB) and did so only with my passport. I've never had a problem using that account.
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I opened a NongHyup account with my passport. I did, however, need to present my ARC before I could withdraw from the account.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've known a number of people who taught for years here on tourist visas.... One woman for 8+ years.

And yeah, they had bank accounts. They also sent money back home. All without an ARC. Was it above board? No idea. But I KNOW it was through an actual bank.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alongway wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:


I suppose it's possible though...mind giving us a couple of banks that do only ask for a passport? No unverifiable personal claims please...the names of the banks themselves will do nicely. Thank you.


When i first came here I opened a shinhan account without an ARC.
It might behoove you to check with the actual banks rather than random ESL pages.


Which is why I said I suppose it is possible and then asked for the names of said banks so I could indeed check.

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I suppose it's possible though...mind giving us a couple of banks that do only ask for a passport? No unverifiable personal claims please...the names of the banks themselves will do nicely. Thank you.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brits get tourist visas good for 3 months. After 3 months, they must head to Japan and back to Korea to get another tourist visa on re-entry.

These days I think all of the banks ask for ARC.

Bosses are free to screw you any way they choose since you shouldn't be working on that visa.

To sum up, I really don't think working on a tourist visa is desirable for anyone qualified.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:

Which is why I said I suppose it is possible and then asked for the names of said banks so I could indeed check.


Another bank, KB

its doubtful you will find any English language link supporting our experience. Walk-in only! Wink
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Kellu



Joined: 13 Dec 2011
Location: us

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:02 am    Post subject: re-entry? Reply with quote

What is the process like to fly to Japan and then back to S Korea and get re-entry for a tourist visa? Is there a certain amount of time you need to be in Japan? I assume any other country would be as good as Japan?
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Kellu



Joined: 13 Dec 2011
Location: us

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:05 am    Post subject: re-entry? Reply with quote

Sorry, I should have elaborated..I'm just curious about being able to tour in S Korea for longer than three months- does anyone know if it is really just as simple as leaving within the three months and then going to another country and coming back for a new 3 month tourist time period?
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modernseoul



Joined: 11 Sep 2011
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: re-entry? Reply with quote

Kellu wrote:
Sorry, I should have elaborated..I'm just curious about being able to tour in S Korea for longer than three months- does anyone know if it is really just as simple as leaving within the three months and then going to another country and coming back for a new 3 month tourist time period?


It is that simple, however you maybe asked for proof of onward travel and/or proof of financial capacity. Also it depends on your nationally, I'm unsure if Korea has enough to offer the justify more than 3 months, what do you plan on doing out of interest?
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: re-entry? Reply with quote

Kellu wrote:
What is the process like to fly to Japan and then back to S Korea and get re-entry for a tourist visa? Is there a certain amount of time you need to be in Japan? I assume any other country would be as good as Japan?


No. It doesn't necessarily have to be Japan. That's just the most convenient. You could go to China (expensive visa for Americans though. I believe) Thailand etc. Take your pick.

At some point though an immigration officer is going to ask "WTF! Why are coming to Korea as a "tourist" every 3 months?"
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