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jurassic82
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| Keep your eyes open for jobs on both this site and other job boards out there. Apply to a bunch of recruiters and make them work for you. Like what was mentioned before getting a job here is easy but finding a GOOD job takes some time. Be patient and don't take the first job that is offered. You can easily find a job if you are already here in Korea. After your first year here your job prospects will really open up and it will be easier to check out schools and line up interviews as you will already be in the country. Anyways, good luck and if you have any questions feel free to PM me. |
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sethzor
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| Malislamusrex wrote: |
About doing the whole 'networking game' you can't decide to go out and network, you meet people some will help you out and some won't.
If what you want is job security I would go to China. There is a massive demand for people there and people tell me you can save as much there as you can with your average hakwon job in Korea. |
I apologize if this comes off a little condescending or something, but a big part of networking IS deciding to go out and do it. :p You might get lucky and meet the right person just by doing your usual pints on a Friday night, but there's all sorts of things you can do to boost your chances tenfold, I'm sure Korea isn't that different from the West in this regard.
I know teaching in China would normally make more sense, but... I just genuinely like Korea and Korean people. :p I realize that living in a country is absolutely not the same as spending a short vacation there, and for all I know I might grow to regret this decision, but to hell with it, I just want to do what I 'want' to do and not what 'offers better perspectives'. I'll spend the rest of my life in regrets if I don't give this a shot, haha.
Again, thanks for all the replies - you've all been very helpful! |
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happiness
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when the 5 day school thing goes into effect,
YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR the weekend hagwon boom with pick up. No parent wants their kid at home when they could be in a hagwon (this isnt the US). SO, even if there is no PS jobs, I promise you the hagwon thing will get out of control.... |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| I'm part of the doom and gloom group. Yes, there are jobs, but salaries are taking a dive. Or at least not going up like the cost of living. I personally will be looking at China where I can make as much as I do in Korea, but get housing and be able to do IELTS to earn more. Cost of living in the city where i'm looking at is low enough for me to be able to afford a maid / cook. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| happiness wrote: |
when the 5 day school thing goes into effect,
YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR the weekend hagwon boom with pick up. No parent wants their kid at home when they could be in a hagwon (this isnt the US). SO, even if there is no PS jobs, I promise you the hagwon thing will get out of control.... |
Then it will be time to switch jobs...from teacher to hagparazzi 
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| For some, blowing the whistle on private educators has become hugely lucrative. Kim Jung-hee, 52, worked off her debts from a previous business and, she says, made about $100,000 a year in 2009 and 2010 by reporting violations at hagwons, including improper hours of operation, excessive fees and unreported taxes. |
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204612504576608680528108152.html |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Malislamusrex wrote: |
About doing the whole 'networking game' you can't decide to go out and network, you meet people some will help you out and some won't.
If what you want is job security I would go to China. There is a massive demand for people there and people tell me you can save as much there as you can with your average hakwon job in Korea. |
I apologize if this comes off a little condescending or something, but a big part of networking IS deciding to go out and do it. :p You might get lucky and meet the right person just by doing your usual pints on a Friday night, but there's all sorts of things you can do to boost your chances tenfold, I'm sure Korea isn't that different from the West in this regard.
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Completely agree, and then some. Networking here is the lynchpin to securing a 'good' job. Most upper-tier universities hire on referrals from other teachers; 'walk-ins' are very rare, in my experience. If hagwons blow your hair back, then great....they are apparently plentiful and simple to get; they pretty much come to you. If you want something better however, you have to go get it. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Korean has a huge demographic problem for the last 11 years they have not been having many kids. In-fact Korea's birthrate is one of the lowest in the world now. The government is in-acting several polices to combat this issue including for daycare for very young children.
The demand for English education is decreasing slowly with the rise of China. There will always be some demand for English education but it will not be as high as it was just a few years ago. Also Koreans are getting better at English. This has a lot to do with the help of NET�s and Korean�s studying English profusely. Many Korean young adults are nearly proficient in English will become the new NET at hagwon�s in the future. Several of my Korean friends are �NET�s� at their hagwan�s now. My Korean friends that work at hagwons have only studied in America for year or less but are sold to Korean parents as �NET� from America.
BTW University positions will be booming for next few years do to demographics. There are a lot of 16-25 year old Koreans.
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Rhodesian
Joined: 26 Oct 2011
Location: NZ
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Dalton wrote: |
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Find "A" job = about as difficult as stepping off a curb.
Find a "decent" job = more difficult.
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Third this.
The more criterion you have the more difficult it will be.
I want to know that the school always pays in full and on time especially at the end of the contract.
I don't think I've met anyone who actually got a 10 day vacation other than the national holidays. While a contract states 120 hours per month and you work 6 contact hours a day you will likely not get OT pay for the extra day or two of work for that month. I just accept these common things. If indeed they are still common.
Decent is subjective and quite complex when one considers the experience of living in Korea as well. Bad is quite clear as in didn't get paid.
I do hogwans. Small hogwans. I don't work weekends or OT (except in an emergency situation), I expect to be paid on time and in full. I don't do office hours except when I choose to. I do my best t..
For me there are lots of jobs. There are some schools I will not work for because of their history. Just search or ask questions if you want to know about any school making an offer to you. Look for money problems.
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Hi Dalton
I'm 50 and struggling in getting offers form schools/agencies near Seoul. I think EPIK may be interested but not till August. I have EU passport. Can you tell me where I can find a list of decent private hagwons I can approach directly because replying to ads from Serious TEachers and ESLCafe is like firing blanks. And when you do ask the agencies a question when they show an interest they don't reply!  |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Time to hit the FAQs Jack, er Rhodesian.
You have an EU passport... if that is not SPECIFICALLY a UK or IRE passport that would be the answer to your question - NOT allowed / you can't get a visa, full stop..
If you (broad assumption based on your user name) were born in Africa then you also have other issues (that are not in your favor) that come into play.
Good news is that with an EU passport then ALL of the EU (as well as Eastern Europe) is open to you. Get a CELTA and go to work.
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Rhodesian
Joined: 26 Oct 2011
Location: NZ
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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thanks tompatz
Good assumption but no -I am a UK passport holder. That's not the problem. I am being told age -and preference for American teachers-can be an issue in Seoul at the moment so that's why I am interested in a list of hagwons who are not so discriminatory. Actually I always thought the older the better in Teaching, because of the life experience, Koreans seem to have it the other way around! |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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thanks tompatz
Good assumption but no -I am a UK passport holder. That's not the problem. I am being told age -and preference for American teachers-can be an issue in Seoul at the moment so that's why I am interested in a list of hagwons who are not so discriminatory. Actually I always thought the older the better in Teaching, because of the life experience, Koreans seem to have it the other way around! |
Howzit. lol.
I'm from the old country too and my best advice to you is not to mention your origins at all, at least not until months after you have been hired. They will be OK with it if you say that your parents were English at least.
Being 50 is a disadvantage, yes. But its not insuperable, you stand a chance if you're prepared to work in the rural provinces. And better if you are in country with documents and ready to go, or dropping off your resume in person to schools. |
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purplemonkey
Joined: 27 Feb 2012
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I'm curious about this too. If I want to find a 'good' job (good resources, focus on education, good staffroom support with other experienced teachers to help with lesson planning) around Gangnam or Seocho, how hard would that be? Ideally lots of other serious foreign teachers at the place, too.
I've got my Bachelor's, CELTA, 1 year Korea experience, 2 years Sydney ESL experience, male, Aussie, 28 and will be touching down in Seoul between May-June so that I can interview face-to-face and check out the schools.
Any recommendations or advice? I've got my 1 year in Korea (Bundang) so I'm familiar with how most things work, just not the current market. |
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