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Just wondering... does anyone have Tinnitus?
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jacksthirty



Joined: 30 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Wikipedia;

'Tinnitus and hearing loss can be permanent conditions. If a ringing in the ears is audible following lengthy exposure to a source of loud noise, such as a music concert or an industrial workplace, it means lasting damage may have already occurred.'

I went to a Motorhead concert years ago, and my ears were ringing for 6 days afterwards...whoops.

I get a ringing sound every so often. Beer helps!
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thebektionary



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See, I wasn't exposed to any loud noise. I remember the day before I got it I got a car wash and blasted Rivers Cuomo's cover of "Don't Worry Baby" by the Beach Boys in my car. But that wasn't even that loud compared to concerts and only lasted 3 minutes. Also, I distinctly remember hearing ringing that went on and off but lasted longer than normal ringing like a week before that.

I really just wish it would go away, but it might not. Doctors are useless when it comes to this.
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alljokingaside



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
When I'm in an enclosed space, say a Lotteria sized room with about 15 people talking nornally, to me it sounds like they're all next to me and shouting at the top of their voice.



Hey,

An acoustic neuroma would cause sensiorineural (things related to the cochlea and assoc. nerves) hearing loss on one side, among other things like dizziness. What you describe sounds like hyperacusis- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperacusis

Since there are multiple etiologies assoc. with hyperacusis, it really depends on what symptoms you have, or don't have, in conjunction with it.

If you find no relief from the local ENTs, check out http://dizzy-doctor.com/ and contact Dr. Hain or Dr. Cherchi. They're usually cool with talking/consulting over e-mail, as long as it isn't too taxing and you're somewhat patient, though it'll be hard to do much due to location and limited information.

If you've had hearing tests (like full spectrum, with a test for the middle ear and inner ear) done by an audiologist or a tech in medical office/hospital that deals with these sorts of things, as well as other tests like the ABR (loud, clicking sounds while you have non-invasive electrodes connected to you), VEMP (loud, clicking sounds while raising your head), etc., then they'll be able to do a bit more, though for a lot of these conditions, there's not too much that can be done, at least nothing as simple as a simple regiment of pills or exercises.

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Yeah, I've had tinnitus, two-toned of all things, for a good while now. No real patience for the retraining therapy. I've just come to think of it as creative neuro-fuel for my crazy locomotor of a brain, though it can be hell on my sleep schedule some nights. Thinking of happy thoughts

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Edit: The last test I mentioned probably wouldn't've been performed had you gone to an audiologist on second thought, since they're usually performed to check for/rule out other conditions, although, again, it depends on what other symptoms you have. The first test, the ABR, might have been performed to check up on the state of the "hearing nerve," though again....

A lot of the info for this sub-sub field came out only decades ago, so it's still young- the info, tech., treatment options, etc.
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alljokingaside



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thebektionary wrote:
For me it sort of seems to be getting better. Sometimes it gets so low that I don't notice it. I just noticed that when I am lying down for long periods of time it gets worse. Maybe because the blood flow is restricted or something?

I don't think I got it from loud noise.

It's reassuring to know that others have it too. I know someone else who I met in Korea who has it and says that he doesn't notice it anymore unless he concentrates on it, so that's also reassuring.


Vessel dilation near the cochlea/middle ear, not restriction, would be more likely, though I doubt it. Unless the tinnitus you describe is pulsatile. Then that could be it. Does your stress levels and/or diet, including alcohol/nicotine intake, affect it at all?

Mmm, there's a lot of causes for tinnitus; if you don't have any other symptoms and it doesn't really affect your daily life, then (btw, not medical advice) as you said, just
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Carbon



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Internet makes people sick. According to WebMD, I have about 36 diseases, 3 of which are infectious, 8 of which have already killed me.
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andrewchon



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alljokingaside: hyperacousis sounds like the right diagnosis for my condition. I've had various head traumas as part of growing up, although I've never been knocked unconscious. I've listened to music at full blast, and I served in the artillery for 10 years. My hearing problems began during High school though. Thanks for all your kind help.
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12ax7



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had tinnitus for years that was brought on by vestibular migraines. I had a deviated septum, so I suffered from chronic ear infections which caused these migraines. My ears eventually became so sensitive to noise, I'd get these migraines just by being exposed to high-pitched sounds, like the voice of children. I couldn't play my guitar for more than a few minutes without getting ear fatigue.

After I finally had surgery to straighten my septum (I can recommend you the top specialist in Korea if you PM me), the migraines, the tinnitus, and the vertigo started going away. It took a good two years for my ears to stop being sensitive to sounds.


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12ax7



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
alljokingaside: hyperacousis sounds like the right diagnosis for my condition. I've had various head traumas as part of growing up, although I've never been knocked unconscious. I've listened to music at full blast, and I served in the artillery for 10 years. My hearing problems began during High school though. Thanks for all your kind help.


Yeah, I was in air defense artillery. Rocket launchers, missiles...People think those things "swish" like in the movies, but they are the loudest noises I've ever heard in my life (and that's with two layers of ear protection). The shock waves...like a punch to the chest.
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbon wrote:
The Internet makes people sick. According to WebMD, I have about 36 diseases, 3 of which are infectious, 8 of which have already killed me.


Carbon the cat. Wink

Thanks for the laughs. Cool
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alljokingaside



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbon wrote:
The Internet makes people sick. According to WebMD, I have about 36 diseases, 3 of which are infectious, 8 of which have already killed me.


You lucky thing. I'm apparently on the verge of DEATH myself according to WebMD. I feel my mortal coil tightening with each word that I type...cough, cough, I got the black lung, pa....


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alljokingaside



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
alljokingaside: hyperacousis sounds like the right diagnosis for my condition. I've had various head traumas as part of growing up, although I've never been knocked unconscious. I've listened to music at full blast, and I served in the artillery for 10 years. My hearing problems began during High school though. Thanks for all your kind help.


Well, it's more a symptom than a diagnosis. Is your balance ever affected as a result of noise? That's a bigger factor to consider.

Though I won't promise that it'll lead to any relief, it won't hurt to check out the info. I posted.
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andrewchon



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alljokingaside: I don't think I've lost balance due to noise before. Then again, now I may pay attention to things like that, so who knows?
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at a Buddhist temple with a friend once and it was completely silent. My friend turned to me and said:

Friend: "do you hear that?"

Me: "yeah, it's rare to hear total silence in Korea"

Friend: "I don't actually like the sound of silence"

Me: "What do you mean?"

Friend: "It's like a constant ringing noise".

Shocked
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thebektionary



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alljokingaside wrote:
thebektionary wrote:
For me it sort of seems to be getting better. Sometimes it gets so low that I don't notice it. I just noticed that when I am lying down for long periods of time it gets worse. Maybe because the blood flow is restricted or something?

I don't think I got it from loud noise.

It's reassuring to know that others have it too. I know someone else who I met in Korea who has it and says that he doesn't notice it anymore unless he concentrates on it, so that's also reassuring.


Vessel dilation near the cochlea/middle ear, not restriction, would be more likely, though I doubt it. Unless the tinnitus you describe is pulsatile. Then that could be it. Does your stress levels and/or diet, including alcohol/nicotine intake, affect it at all?

Mmm, there's a lot of causes for tinnitus; if you don't have any other symptoms and it doesn't really affect your daily life, then (btw, not medical advice) as you said, just


Yep, it's definitely affected by alcohol intake, stress, and diet. I don't smoke.
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english puppet



Joined: 04 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had it for a couple of decades. My initial problems came when I was a working musician. Friends of mine who've played all their lives have it as well.

The worst was the day after a Pete Townsend concert. I didn't even think I was that close or exposed for that long. The next morning was aweful and it was so loud it was blocking out other sounds. Actually created quite a level of anxiety for me.

I started popping in ear plugs during my 3rd grade class now at times. The Korean obsession with simultaneously yelling in rote as an educational method is honestly getting to me. To add to it, my co-teacher thinks that turning on the chapter chant during the baseline anarchy is somehow more educational.

She told me that many Korean teachers have serious hearing loss by the end of their careers - not hard to believe.
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