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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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And this is why I think some people choose to break the law and still smoke pot.
Yes it's risky, but in terms of effects it's not even comparable to drinking. |
Not true really. A chronic pot smoker is going to mess up his lungs and face heart disease.
As to Captain Korea being addcited to his pants - you;re describing need / neccesity... |
When the Captain was young...his mother asked him what he wanted for his birthday.
The Captain replied "Something new and something to play with"
So his mother bought him a new pair of pants with holes in the pockets.
Those kinds of pants can be wicked addictive.
My apologies Captain.  |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I bet these cops had one massive party after this bust
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Doubtful when the average Korean doesn't have the same drug education most of us take for granted. A customs worker once commented to me that pot was bad because you take it intravenously or nasally.  He didn't know and didn't care about drugs other than to accept the fact they were dangerous |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| The Floating World wrote: |
It IS psychologically addictive, like gambling for example. For many, just as powerful as a physical addiction.
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Surfing the internet, gaming, or almost any behavior can be psychologically addictive.
In terms of physical addiction, it ranks pretty low within the spectrum of substances.
It's main drawback is that is it illegal. That's the main reason why it should be avoided.
All things being equal, soju is a much worse substance, especially the morning after. Heck, I have an adverse psychological reaction just looking at those green bottles in the stores.
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It's much more addictive than you are suggesting. In reality, the proportion of drug users who become addicted to any drug is relatively small (10-30%). 9% of marijuana users will develop a strong addiction (10-30% will develop dependency). So, although it's less addictive than heroine (23%) or tobacco (32%), it remains that it is still significantly so. |
It's still fairly benign in comparison to even certain legal substances, and not as addictive or harmful as many want to portray it. That doesn't mean it's a 100 percent healthy activity, but the most dangerous thing about it is that it's currently illegal and therefore, a bad idea to do (especially in Asia). Take away the illegal aspect and it becomes not much different than having a few drinks after work, minus the hangover the next day.
As for your data (not sure how accurate it is, and did it include alcohol?)... based on just that, we should ban tobacco too since 'significantly' more people will develop dependency (9% vs. 32%).
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Sure, it's not as harmful as meth, tobacco, or alcohol, but that's besides the point. I was addressing someone's claims that it isn't addictive. |
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everything-is-everything
Joined: 06 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:09 am Post subject: |
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And this is why I think some people choose to break the law and still smoke pot.
Yes it's risky, but in terms of effects it's not even comparable to drinking. |
Not true really. A chronic pot smoker is going to mess up his lungs and face heart disease.
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Show me a statistic linking chronic marijuana use to lung cancer!
I know it seems like this would be easy to find, but it's not. In fact, ganga actually has cancer fighting properties. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| The Floating World wrote: |
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And this is why I think some people choose to break the law and still smoke pot.
Yes it's risky, but in terms of effects it's not even comparable to drinking. |
Not true really. A chronic pot smoker is going to mess up his lungs and face heart disease.
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Show me a statistic linking chronic marijuana use to lung cancer!
I know it seems like this would be easy to find, but it's not. In fact, ganga actually has cancer fighting properties. |
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Smoking and cancer riskAs of 2012, there is still no conclusive correlation between the effects of cannabis smoke and an increased incidence of lung cancer in humans due to the difficulties of finding and studying subjects who have only been exposed to cannabis smoke.
An oft quoted 2006 study shows that there is no link between smoking marijuana and lung cancer. Another study published in 2012 supports this view.[11] However, studies in 2008 done in New Zealand and Algeria have shown increased instances of lung cancer after heavy exposure to cannabis smoke.
In September of 2011, the University of Colorado Cancer Center [1] published a paper which summarized the current status of Marijuana in the United States.
The paper summarized that "There is little direct evidence that THC or other cannabinoids are carcinogenic" and that THC as a compound is not cancer causing. "By contrast, cannabis smoke is carcinogenic in rodents and mutagenic in the Ames test." [12] However, in humans it has been more difficult to definitively prove.
In January of 2012 another paper was published supporting the 2006 study. In it, another 20 year study of pulmonary function and marijuana exposure also concluded that "Our findings suggest that occasional use (1 joint a day for 7 years or 1 joint/week for 49 years) of marijuana for these or other purposes may not be associated with adverse consequences on pulmonary function. It is more difficult to estimate the potential effects of regular heavy use, because this pattern of use |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_smoking#Smoking_lung_cancer_risk |
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everything-is-everything
Joined: 06 Jun 2011
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So from your posted article, the evidence isn't really conclusive.
Plus people can always vaporize it and problem (or imaginary problem) solved. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Mix1 wrote: |
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| Mix1 wrote: |
| The Floating World wrote: |
It IS psychologically addictive, like gambling for example. For many, just as powerful as a physical addiction.
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Surfing the internet, gaming, or almost any behavior can be psychologically addictive.
In terms of physical addiction, it ranks pretty low within the spectrum of substances.
It's main drawback is that is it illegal. That's the main reason why it should be avoided.
All things being equal, soju is a much worse substance, especially the morning after. Heck, I have an adverse psychological reaction just looking at those green bottles in the stores.
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It's much more addictive than you are suggesting. In reality, the proportion of drug users who become addicted to any drug is relatively small (10-30%). 9% of marijuana users will develop a strong addiction (10-30% will develop dependency). So, although it's less addictive than heroine (23%) or tobacco (32%), it remains that it is still significantly so. |
It's still fairly benign in comparison to even certain legal substances, and not as addictive or harmful as many want to portray it. That doesn't mean it's a 100 percent healthy activity, but the most dangerous thing about it is that it's currently illegal and therefore, a bad idea to do (especially in Asia). Take away the illegal aspect and it becomes not much different than having a few drinks after work, minus the hangover the next day.
As for your data (not sure how accurate it is, and did it include alcohol?)... based on just that, we should ban tobacco too since 'significantly' more people will develop dependency (9% vs. 32%).
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Sure, it's not as harmful as meth, tobacco, or alcohol, but that's besides the point. I was addressing someone's claims that it isn't addictive. |
It's not beside the point; I was responding to your stats on addiction/dependency. No big deal though.
Yes, it can be addictive but in most cases not very addictive, as your stats show. If anything, people are more drawn to it because it's fun and relaxing, which are desirable feelings in and of themselves. This is where the psychological addiction may come into it for some. Contrast that to tobacco where people just "need" a cigarette just to hold off having physical withdraw symptoms. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:14 am Post subject: |
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now back to Phones. sure some people might need it for their jobs.
which Student needs a phone for his job? anyway what ever.
the point was, to see who would run home to get their phones because they can't go the day without it, not because of work, but because they feel naked with out it. |
Every one of my students NEED their phones for their job. I NEED my phone for my job.
To me, your example is rubbish. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
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now back to Phones. sure some people might need it for their jobs.
which Student needs a phone for his job? anyway what ever.
the point was, to see who would run home to get their phones because they can't go the day without it, not because of work, but because they feel naked with out it. |
Every one of my students NEED their phones for their job. I NEED my phone for my job.
To me, your example is rubbish. |
You're addicted to your job. You're addicted to the apartment you live in every day that your job pays for. And the food you buy that you eat every day you are addicted to and the money from your job addiction pays for it. It is a vicious cycle of abuse you will be trapped in until the day you die.  |
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Koharski
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Joined: 20 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:10 am Post subject: |
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Good lord, enough.
Koharski |
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