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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
Anyone remember the Busan incident a few years back? English teachers put on a play ridiculing aspects of Korean culture. A Korean complained to the police. The participants were arrested, charged with 'violating their visas' and deported - each and every one of them. Shocked

Yet their tv shows regularly produce this disgusting racist 'Aprika' material set to canned laughter and applause.

Korea sickens me sometimes.



SNL skits and Dave Chappelle have been doing 'funny race skits' for years. YEARS.

It's not your fault. You've been bombarded with this stuff since you were old enough to walk. Then, when comedians make light of the issue - you balk and run like the wind.


According to this blogger, Dave Chappelle quit his show and went to Africa over the way one of the show's white cast member laughed at his black face pixie comedy sketch a few years ago joke. It's the way he laughed, not the fact that he laughed.

I liked this comment in particular:

If you watch Dave talk about it on Inside the Actors Studio you might understand better. After that if you still can�t understand the felling behind Dave�s decision then you never will understand and need to shut up and leave it alone.


http://www.dead-frog.com/blog/entry/the_sketch_that_drove_dave_chappelle_out/
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jfromtheway



Joined: 20 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
I wouldn't know until I'd seen the translation and even then I'm not Korean so it would be difficult to judge.


Name of the song and, I'd say, a fairly loose and hilarious translation provided by "Google translate this page". My ladyfriend said it was generally correct, though it's obviously in grammatical shambles, to say the absolute least. Apparently, it's a "Korean country song," according to her. She speaks excellent English, but I would never deny that she could be wrong about certain parts. I hope you enjoy reading this as much as I did.

신 토 불이

Who are you who I am
We all are born domestic farm
Sintobul domestic farm's local purchasing
Gangnam Apgujeong street here where are you, uh - here
Where to go in order, only whether Miss
Foreign goods in the shop window mannequin is dancing two
Rice's boriya patyiya Kong
Why are we not going on the body of others, we seek
Radish Kimchi with red pepper paste
Koreans do not forget Do not forget you and I
Sintobul domestic farm's local purchasing

Who are you who I am
We all are born domestic farm
Sintobul domestic farm's local purchasing
Myeong-dong Street Po, uh - here where are you here
Where to go in order, only whether Miss
Foreign products to showcase two mannequins Dancing
Rice's boriya patyiya Kong.
Why are we not going on the body of others, we seek
Radish Kimchi with red pepper paste
Koreans do not forget Do not forget you and I
Sintobul domestic farm's local purchasing

It made zero sense to me, also. The title was translated to me as: 신 토 불이 ("Korean food is best for Korean people"). I'm trying my best, since no one has translated anything so far, but my Korean is horrible. The theme is supposedly about "Food Miles."

Personally, two Korean girls singing about how certain ethnic groups should eat their own countries' food (assuming my translator was correct), while sporting faux-Lakers jerseys and black face, is certainly out of line. But, then again, what do I know.
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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Anyone remember the Busan incident a few years back? English teachers put on a play ridiculing aspects of Korean culture. A Korean complained to the police. The participants were arrested, charged with 'violating their visas' and deported - each and every one of them.

Yet their tv shows regularly produce this disgusting racist 'Aprika' material set to canned laughter and applause.

Korea sickens me sometimes


Yeah I do remember that but as you said it was because they were violating their visas by doing another job, not because of the actual content of the play


You have just won the naive post of the week award. Congratulations!
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfromtheway wrote:
But it's hard to view this garbage as anything other than unacceptable.


Unacceptable where?

Oh you mean in a different country. Ah.

FYI genocide, child suicide bombers and carrying an AK47 on the street are entirely acceptable in several countries and I don't see you making nearly as much fuss.
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jfromtheway



Joined: 20 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
jfromtheway wrote:
But it's hard to view this garbage as anything other than unacceptable.


Unacceptable where?

Oh you mean in a different country. Ah.

FYI genocide, child suicide bombers and carrying an AK47 on the street are entirely acceptable in several countries and I don't see you making nearly as much fuss.


Jamaica. No, here, the country in which we both currently reside. Once again, care to give a reason why you think it's not unacceptable? Your second point is just an odd comparison (if that's even what it is) which has nothing to do with anything that has been mentioned in this thread. I have opinions on those issues but I don't live in the 3rd world countries that do the things you mentioned.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfromtheway wrote:
care to give a reason why you think it's not unacceptable?


because westerners are trying to turn korea into a copy of themselves.
Korea is thankfully free of much of the PC harrasment that makes life in the west so ridiculous.

Black folks make fun of white folks btw. on national TV.
People are funny. Our racial differences are also funny. There is an innocence to this humor, it is not based on hatred.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it okay when white comedians do it as it's 'post modern ironic?' Ie, they know it's wrong and the joke is they are making fun of themselves or the tv network or something because we know it's wrong...?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
Anyone remember the Busan incident a few years back? English teachers put on a play ridiculing aspects of Korean culture. A Korean complained to the police. The participants were arrested, charged with 'violating their visas' and deported - each and every one of them. Shocked


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No...each and every one of them weren't deported. Several of them still work here.

Oh and the "Busan incident" (aka "Babopalooza") took place in 2006. Here is one of the English teachers who was involved and questioned by the police...RENEWING HIS VISA IN 2007.


http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=78447&highlight=Babopalooza


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Dodge7



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
jfromtheway wrote:
care to give a reason why you think it's not unacceptable?


because westerners are trying to turn korea into a copy of themselves.
Korea is thankfully free of much of the PC harrasment that makes life in the west so ridiculous.

Black folks make fun of white folks btw. on national TV.
People are funny. Our racial differences are also funny. There is an innocence to this humor, it is not based on hatred.

Thankfully another poster on Dave's "gets it."
Free from the PC crap in America has made me enjoy life so much more in Korea.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it's so refreshing to be free from all the 'pc crap' in Korea.

Especially when little kids have no reserve about talking banmal to me in class and even using Korean swear words openly when they know I understand Korean...

.... or when I got to a restaurant and order in Korean and get waved away with 'no sandwichee, no hamburgah!' and then all the patrons in the restaurant crack up laughing at me. True stories.

On the flip side, I can get away with a lot of stuff too I guess as I will always be seen as ignorant of Korean ways whether I am or not and thus not really cognizant of my mistakes. Oh wait, thjat means I'm treated as a simpleton. Hmmm, give me the PC back please....
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodge7 wrote:
Julius wrote:
jfromtheway wrote:
care to give a reason why you think it's not unacceptable?


because westerners are trying to turn korea into a copy of themselves.
Korea is thankfully free of much of the PC harrasment that makes life in the west so ridiculous.

Black folks make fun of white folks btw. on national TV.
People are funny. Our racial differences are also funny. There is an innocence to this humor, it is not based on hatred.

Thankfully another poster on Dave's "gets it."
Free from the PC crap in America has made me enjoy life so much more in Korea.


Some people are getting their panties in a twist over this. I don't find it shocking or offensive, just painfully embarrassing. Like your drunk uncle making fart noises with his armpit, it makes you feel so bad for them.
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You have just won the naive post of the week award. Congratulations!


And it would make me a lot more worldy-wise if I just blindly believed everything I read on Dave's would it? Maybe, for example, I should just blindly believe in the 'fact' as you reported it, that 'each and every one' of the people who performed that play in Busan got deported'? Would that make me less naive?
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
Yeah it's so refreshing to be free from all the 'pc crap' in Korea.

Especially when little kids have no reserve about talking banmal to me in class and even using Korean swear words openly when they know I understand Korean...

.... or when I got to a restaurant and order in Korean and get waved away with 'no sandwichee, no hamburgah!' and then all the patrons in the restaurant crack up laughing at me. True stories.

On the flip side, I can get away with a lot of stuff too I guess as I will always be seen as ignorant of Korean ways whether I am or not and thus not really cognizant of my mistakes. Oh wait, thjat means I'm treated as a simpleton. Hmmm, give me the PC back please....


You mean give you the PC and your part in the majority race back.

Political correctness is not the solution to mouthy children in the classroom, people making jokes at another's expense and discrimination based on race.
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Murakano



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poor taste but not racist in my opinion.

I lived in Japan before and the whole blackface routine was a pretty common theme on Japanese TV....way more often than here.
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fermentation



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw this when they aired it. I laughed because I knew someone was gonna make it thread about it.
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