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hatfiejl
Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:20 am Post subject: Re: CELTA |
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| Take a good (1 month) ESL teaching course, think CELTA, or a 120 course like Trinity TESOL. It will get you ready to teach, and help your resume stand out a bit from the other newbies. |
Thanks! I researched both online and it appears these are not offered where I live. Would taking a TESOL certification program suffice? |
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tardisrider

Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Here are a couple of things that are often confusing to new comers:
1. When dealing with a chain of hagwons, focus on information about the individual branch rather than the reputation of the hagwon in general. You might hear "XYZ hagwon is great!" but the XYZ branch in SumDamDong may be very different from the XYZ branch in YukEeGu, especially if these different branches are franchised rather than managed from one central location.
2. Understand the role of recruiters. Recruiters are not trainers or sponsors. Recruiters get paid (by the school) to find teachers. After that, the recruiter's job is done. During the recruitment period, a recruiter may be in a position to negotiate salary and/or contract terms, but if the school has a take-it-or-leave-it attitude toward the contract, the recruiter can do nothing except try to find another teacher who will sign the contract. After the initial recruitment period, recruiters don't mediate contract disputes or any other issues, nor do they have other responsibilities to either the school or the teacher. Of course, a truly ethical recruiter would never recruit a teacher knowing that ABC hagwon is not going to honor the terms of a contract, but realistically most recruiters truly don't know or care anything about ABC hagwon other than that they what the management is looking for in a teacher. Some people will say that "truly ethical recruiters" don't exist. It is my belief that there are "ethical" recruiters and "unethical" recruiters, but that the nature of the job simply requires a recruiter to match a body with a contract and then move on without further consideration. |
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hatfiejl
Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| tardisrider wrote: |
Here are a couple of things that are often confusing to new comers:
1. When dealing with a chain of hagwons, focus on information about the individual branch rather than the reputation of the hagwon in general. You might hear "XYZ hagwon is great!" but the XYZ branch in SumDamDong may be very different from the XYZ branch in YukEeGu, especially if these different branches are franchised rather than managed from one central location.
2. Understand the role of recruiters. Recruiters are not trainers or sponsors. Recruiters get paid (by the school) to find teachers. After that, the recruiter's job is done. During the recruitment period, a recruiter may be in a position to negotiate salary and/or contract terms, but if the school has a take-it-or-leave-it attitude toward the contract, the recruiter can do nothing except try to find another teacher who will sign the contract. After the initial recruitment period, recruiters don't mediate contract disputes or any other issues, nor do they have other responsibilities to either the school or the teacher. Of course, a truly ethical recruiter would never recruit a teacher knowing that ABC hagwon is not going to honor the terms of a contract, but realistically most recruiters truly don't know or care anything about ABC hagwon other than that they what the management is looking for in a teacher. Some people will say that "truly ethical recruiters" don't exist. It is my belief that there are "ethical" recruiters and "unethical" recruiters, but that the nature of the job simply requires a recruiter to match a body with a contract and then move on without further consideration. |
Thanks! I've seen a lot of people saying that about the recruiters so I've tried to keep that in mind the whole time. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Getting Hired | Advice? |
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| hatfiejl wrote: |
| Thanks. Could you explain what the CBC application is exactly? |
2 key documents you need to work in Korea:
1) certified true copy of your degree with an apostille affixed to it.
2) CBC (criminal background check) issued by the FBI, with an apostille affixed and no more than 6 months old from the date of issue till the date of visa confirmation application (when it hits the desk at immigration).
If you don't understand one or the other simply look down the page. There are about 1000 threads from other Americans who don't know how to get an FBI check done either.
Do be aware that the process of obtaining these documents can take MONTHS so as I said earlier, ASK your school when the degree parchment will be available and then apply for your CBC about 2 months prior to that date.
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