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Andromeda



Joined: 09 Feb 2012
Location: Woodstock, GA

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: Why it is a good idea to move to korea as a teacher. Reply with quote

So, I've been reading a lot of threads about living and teaching in Korea. Some of it makes me a bit nervous. I am in the process of seeking employment as a teacher in Korea and would love to hear some of the positive stories. I know there have to be some great things about the living and teaching experience over there.
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modernseoul



Joined: 11 Sep 2011
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Why it is a good idea to move to korea as a teacher. Reply with quote

Andromeda wrote:
So, I've been reading a lot of threads about living and teaching in Korea. Some of it makes me a bit nervous. I am in the process of seeking employment as a teacher in Korea and would love to hear some of the positive stories. I know there have to be some great things about the living and teaching experience over there.


It really depends on you, some people are not best suited for teaching in Korea while others have a job for life.

Why are you interested in working and living in Korea?
What kind of things are making you nervous?
What sort of things are you into?

I personally have taught in Korea for over 2 years and although there have been both good and bad times, I'm returning in 3 weeks time to continue my life in Korea.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only speak for myself, and I'd say it's good that
1. I don't have to worry about getting mugged at gun-point.
2. I don't have to worry about drug junkie's needles
3. There's no jocks and cheerleaders culture in Korea
4. So many students take music lessons in Korea
5. no soccer-moms in Korea
6. eating out is cheap in Korea
7. no dumb blondes in Korea
8. heavy metal music's unpopularity in Korea
9. no public nudity in Korea

These are my general impressions. Somebody will probably come up with an isolated example to disagree with me. I will disdainfully ignore any such attempts.

I've added some specifications because it seems some readers are confused about what's where.

10. No spray painted graffiti in Korea


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joelove



Joined: 12 May 2011

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
I can only speak for myself, and I'd say it's good that
1. I don't have to worry about getting mugged at gun-point.
2. I don't have to worry about drug junkie's needles
.


Yikes, did you used to worry about these things? And is not having to worry about them really an endorsement of a place?
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joelove wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
I can only speak for myself, and I'd say it's good that
1. I don't have to worry about getting mugged at gun-point.
2. I don't have to worry about drug junkie's needles
.


Yikes, did you used to worry about these things? And is not having to worry about them really an endorsement of a place?


This. OP must be American.

Anyway, people complain about teaching in Korea a lot because Korea is far away and that makes it harder to compare it to back home. We're in a bubble, essentially.

I think if people lived in their home countries and were somehow able to come to Korea only for work and then return to their country at the end of every shift (with a magic broomstick) and hang out with their friends back home, they wouldn't complain about how bad teaching here is.
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FDNY



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Razz Razz Razz KGIRLS Razz Razz Razz
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Andromeda



Joined: 09 Feb 2012
Location: Woodstock, GA

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

myenglishisno wrote:
joelove wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
I can only speak for myself, and I'd say it's good that
1. I don't have to worry about getting mugged at gun-point.
2. I don't have to worry about drug junkie's needles
.


Yikes, did you used to worry about these things? And is not having to worry about them really an endorsement of a place?


This. OP must be American.

Anyway, people complain about teaching in Korea a lot because Korea is far away and that makes it harder to compare it to back home. We're in a bubble, essentially.

I think if people lived in their home countries and were somehow able to come to Korea only for work and then return to their country at the end of every shift (with a magic broomstick) and hang out with their friends back home, they wouldn't complain about how bad teaching here is.


You busted me, I'm a Yank. At any rate, Thank You so much for your info as it is enlightening. Fotunately for me, I can't wait to go to another country with a different perspective. I don't really relate to much to the typical American culture (football, rap, reality shows, etc.). I'm not trying to bash the U.S., I simply want to gain some more insight and understanding from other cultures. The Koreans and (in your case I'm guessing) the English may help me to learn more about the world.
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

General rule of thumb is, if you are a whiner at home, you'll be a whiner in Korea. Saying that, culture shock will jump out and grab even the most well adjusted, flexible people. So be prepared to be chalellenged, and be prepared to be misunderstood in the most 'obvious' situations.

Your first job really comes down to the luck of the draw. You can do all the research and talk to the other teachers at the school (obviously), but that is not going to be the same as experiencing it for yourself. If you have a hobby and you can stand some solitude - or at least a very restricted social circle for a while - that will help you a bit. Online dating can get you out and about and meeting other people, but that's not for everyone.

Good Luck!
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, Korea isn't that much of a culture shock. It's a developed country, it is easy to get around in and everyone is eager to speak English to you even if they only know two words (which makes learning Korean rather hard).

I didn't even notice cultural differences until I was here for almost a year. For the most part, you're on too much of a ride to really be aware of it, especially if you're on the young side which most teachers these days are (under 25).
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cwflaneur



Joined: 04 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:


7. no dumb blondes


Plenty of dumb and ditsy brunettes, though.

andrewchon wrote:

8. heavy metal music's unpopularity


Even if I hated heavy metal as you do, that would be poor consolation for the existence of K pop.

andrewchon wrote:

9. no public nudity


Wtf?
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Modernist



Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Online dating can get you out and about and meeting other people, but that's not for everyone.

No kidding. Unless you enjoy needy, pack-animal behavior and your regular work miscommunications echoed every day when you're NOT working. And pretending to like Korean food/culture/music/TV/etc/etc.

And if you know where I can find some decent-looking Western women who are actually single and capably intelligent, I'd love to know about it. I saw more of them in a week in Shanghai than in a year here, including in Seoul.

Advice for the OP--bring a Kindle. Lots of waiting and boredom in this country, especially if you're at PS. Knocking down your reading list is a productive way to use the time.

Uh, positive things? Huh. Must be something. Well, their KTX trains are quite nice. Lot of the kids are sweet, depending on where you live. Fresh fruit is cheap, if seasonal. They really know how to make fried chicken. All the taxis are new for some reason.

Still, a dubious country overall. Insular, shading over into xenophobia more often than you'd think considering it's the 13th largest economy in the world. Come on over, enjoy what you can, but have an exit plan. This isn't anyplace to make a life.
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mayorgc



Joined: 19 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Why it is a good idea to move to korea as a teacher. Reply with quote

Andromeda wrote:
So, I've been reading a lot of threads about living and teaching in Korea. Some of it makes me a bit nervous. I am in the process of seeking employment as a teacher in Korea and would love to hear some of the positive stories. I know there have to be some great things about the living and teaching experience over there.


Positive story:

I graduated from University and got a job in an office setting. I thought I was gonna be there for life. My raging dyke of a supervisor thought otherwise. After 6 weeks, I quit and was unemployed. By chance, I saw an ad for teaching overseas in Korea. $30k (CDN) per year. I initiated the lengthy document process and about 3 months later I was leaving on a jet plane.

I pretty much knew nothing regarding Korea. I loved the movie "My Sassy Girl" and that's about it. Everything I learned about Korea came from this website pretty much. I got a nice job just outside of Seoul. My gepik elementary school never had a foreigner before, I was the first.

I was incredibly fortunate with my school. Every aspect of my school life was awesome. My kids were great. They loved me, I basically got the rockstar treatment. My co-teacher treated me incredibly well. She and I got along great and I even spent time with her and her husband on the weekends. The other teachers at the school also treated me great. Some treated me a little too nice, but that's a story for another day. The best part of all was that my principal turned out the be the greatest female principal in all of Korea (confirmed to me by the other teachers Very Happy )

I'll admit that the work itself was really lacking. I was a tape recorder most of the day and didn't have much to do really. I felt incredibly over-paid and incredibly under-utilized. My afterschool classes though were run entirely by me and I gave it my all.

All in all, I have nothing but fond memories of my kids and the school. Some of the kids I'll definitely remember forever.

Others here will agree: If your work life is great, your personal life will be even better.

My life outside of school was 11 / 10. Being Chinese/Canadian, I blended in with the locals. I had the yellow camouflage. I didn't get any 'un-wanted' attention, but because I was an English speaking foreigner, I was able to stand out when I wanted to.

With all my time off during holidays, I visited every place that I wanted to. I hit up Hong Kong, Tokyo, Shanghai and Beijing. Korea is not a bad country to use as a "hub" of sorts.

Korea really meshed well with my personality. I'm not a fan of "quiet". Canada is great and everything, but it's definitely quiet compared to Korea. I absolutely loved the density/crowds of Asia. Everywhere you go, something's going on. I also loved my apartment. It was basically a shoebox; but it was my shoebox. Coming from the most expensive city in Canada, that was huge for me.

I also love exploring on my own. With the Seoul metro the way it is, I could go almost everywhere I wanted on less than $5 a day. Not knowing anything about Korea, everything was literally new to me.

Being the geek that I am, I also love the fact that Arcades are still alive in Asia. Being a huge Tekken fan, I couldn't have chosen a more perfect country to live in. Tekken 6 everywhere. I was in heaven.

Finally, it didn't hurt that I found Korean women attractive. The heels, the skirts, the makeup. Nice! I also met my wife the first week I was in Korea. While exploring Seoul on the subway, I got a bit lost and ended up finding love on the platform of Sindorim station. The same station that Cha Tae Hyun and Jeon Ji-Hyun met in the movie.
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mikesaidyes



Joined: 26 Apr 2011
Location: Sanbon, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved here (to Sanbon, about 45 mins south of Seoul on line 4) just over six months ago. I was laid off in April 2011 and always said I would teach abroad if I ever lost my job and VOILA! Perfect time (especially since my apartment lease ended the next month).

I've always been a big fan of traveling, so I wasn't particularly nervous about the up and moving part or the "new scary language thing."

It definitely helps that I work at an amazing hagwon and am happy with all aspects of my job - work load, pay, co workers, company organization, yada yada yada. If I was a desk warmer alone at a public school, I'd probably kill myself.

Of course, I miss my friends at home, but if you're social (which I am), I've already made a giant group of friends scattered all over Seoul/Gyeonggi-do that I can see every night of the week.

The pay is good (considering that they pay your rent... to really think about how much you're making, add on 400,000 won to your salary each month for that free rent). My only bills are cell phone, utilities, student loans and american credit cards. Disposable income is high.

That being said, I'm not a big saver, but I also enjoy my social life, going out and buying things for my boyfriend.

Oh yeah, OTHER FUN THING ABOUT KOREA: I found love at the gay bar. Odd, I know, but we've been together about four months.

All in all, even if I didn't have the man, I'd still be THOROUGHLY happy here. The thought of being at home and knowing what I've left behind over here is really depressing. The social life is always an adventure and travel to other places is a breeze. There's also lots of places to go in Korea, too, that you can do on a quick weekend.

Before I was here, I was in my field of marketing. I was happy and really moved here to travel and do something on my dream list. Now that I know I'm good at my job, the teachers, parents and kids are happy and learning, I really don't want to leave. Sure, I may go back in like 3 years, but I'm definitely here for one more at a minimum.... but I could easily stay forever.

My favorite thing ever about Korea: meat restaurants at 3 AM.
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Gregski



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
1. I don't have to worry about getting mugged at gun-point.
2. I don't have to worry about drug junkie's needles


Just want to throw it out there that I'm American and I've never had to worry about these things...

Quote:
3. no jocks and cheerleaders culture


...or this? At least, not since high school...

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8. heavy metal music's unpopularity


...or this...heavy metal is a very niche subculture in America...

Quote:
9. no public nudity


Okay, what part of America are you from?

As for the topic, if you're researching coming to Korea, you've undoubtedly read the horror stories, including some that will point blank tell you never to work in Korea, especially for a hagwon. I'm still new here, but none of the hagwon horror stories have come true for me...yet. I have decent hours, a good paycheck, a good apartment, nice co-workers, etc. I don't want to jinx myself, but for me, so far, so good.
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mikesaidyes



Joined: 26 Apr 2011
Location: Sanbon, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Andromeda - I notice you're in Woodstock. I lived in Atlanta (Midtown, five years strong), myself!
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