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Breaking Contract to work for SMOE

 
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Ksamsoon



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:34 pm    Post subject: Breaking Contract to work for SMOE Reply with quote

I'm applying for a public school job with SMOE in August, but I would like to work in Korea from now until the SMOE position begins (~4 months).

I've "heard" that SMOE will not hire me if I break contract within 1 year prior to working for them. Is this true? If so, is this situation limited to those teaching under the E-2 or does it extend to those breaking contract under any visa? I have the option of working for a hagwon under the E-2 or working in a non-teaching position under the E-7. Either way, I would have to break my contract when SMOE starts in August.

Any help is much appreciated! Thanks.
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dbtm



Joined: 24 Sep 2010
Location: ottawa

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say your SMOE odds are an incredible longshot because they aren't hiring middle or high school teachers anymore and lots of the open elementary schools positions will be taken from ms/hs teachers transferring down to elementary.
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Ksamsoon



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info dbtm. I have over 3 years of teaching experience (2 in Korea) and excellent reference letters, so I think I stand a pretty good chance. If it doesn't work out, I can always apply to hagwons.

However, at the moment I'm more concerned about the logistics of breaking contract to begin a public school job and whether the rules change depending on my visa type (E2, E7).
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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I broke a contract to work for them a few years back, no problem, but then my hakwon was very reasonable and provided an LOR. I had only been there a couple of months, started end of Aug for SMOE.

don't know if they have a policy, would think it wouldn't matter if your hakwon relented, as mine did. otherwise, maybe not.
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Ksamsoon



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm... maybe the policy has changed since then? My recruiter told me he cannot recommend me to SMOE if I will be breaking contract.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "breaking contract" only applies if you are breaking contract with ANOTHER public school job and not a hakwon. I quit a hakwon job six months into it because I found out that they weren't paying pension or medical insurance. Even though I listed that on my resume I had no problem getting a P.S job a couple of years later.

I'd say your recruiter is either misinformed or doesn't like the idea of you breaking a contract (doesn't look good for him).
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missty



Joined: 19 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I broke my hagwon contract a month early to start working with SMOE. But then I had worked with SMOE previously and so I could skip the recruitment part.

Also, because I was just quitting my hagwon a month before (basically meaning that they didn't pay severance) the hagwon gave me a LOR no problem.

If you're working for a company for just a few months then getting a LOR from them will not be guaranteed at all. Why don't you just wait for the few months until August?

I'd be very cautious about working for a hagwon for such a short time before quitting. As I really do doubt that they would give you a LOR.
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Ksamsoon



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there's some kind of rule (although I'm not 100% sure of this and can't find information anywhere) that if you break contract 1 year prior to working with SMOE, they will not hire you. I don't think it's an issue if you've broken a hagwon contract 2, 3, etc. years ago.

I don't want to wait until August to start working because I've already been back in the States for 4 months and I feel like I'm going stir crazy waiting any longer.

Any ideas on if short-term jobs (~4 months) are available with visa sponsorship (maybe a C-4) starting April/May?
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ksamsoon wrote:
I think there's some kind of rule (although I'm not 100% sure of this and can't find information anywhere) that if you break contract 1 year prior to working with SMOE, they will not hire you. I don't think it's an issue if you've broken a hagwon contract 2, 3, etc. years ago.

I don't want to wait until August to start working because I've already been back in the States for 4 months and I feel like I'm going stir crazy waiting any longer.

Any ideas on if short-term jobs (~4 months) are available with visa sponsorship (maybe a C-4) starting April/May?


If you're living with family, jsut sit tight. Maybe Wal Mart is hiring? Get a short term crap job then come over. Unless you're starving or something?
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Ksamsoon



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 - haha, no, I'm not starving and yes, I am living with family, which is driving me insane. I might do a summer intensive course from June-July, but ideally a 4 month short-term contract would be perfect.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Vietnam, Thailand or the Philippines for a few months.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ksamsoon wrote:
Weigookin74 - haha, no, I'm not starving and yes, I am living with family, which is driving me insane. I might do a summer intensive course from June-July, but ideally a 4 month short-term contract would be perfect.


Well, I'm glad to hear you're not starving. Time goes by fast. Though maybe not so much when living at home. But, it depends on your financial situation. Can you afford to take some month long 120 hour TESOL course? Can you afford to get some short term teaching contract in China or somewhere else? AS long as you know you're hired for SMOE and have a job lined up in September. Get a job in another country, then go to the airport and do your runner two to three months in. Of course, if you have the luxury of time and money, you can wait on a thai or phillipine beach. Otherwise, sit tight. Time will fly eventually.

Otherwise, summer in the Northern most edge of the USA or in Canada can actually be quite nice. Get some sun, enjoy the weather, and be happy to avoid a gross Korean summer. lol
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Ksamsoon



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troglodyte, Weigookin74 - Thanks for your suggestions! I'll look into those programs. For anyone else who is having the same issue, there's a program in Japan called Westgate that allows you to teach at a university for 3-4 months.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ksamsoon wrote:
Troglodyte, Weigookin74 - Thanks for your suggestions! I'll look into those programs. For anyone else who is having the same issue, there's a program in Japan called Westgate that allows you to teach at a university for 3-4 months.


With the countries that I mentioned, there are no short term programs that I know about. They are simply popular destinations for backpackers looking to do a bit of freelance ELT work for a few months. They are also relatively cheap, so it's not too hard to make enough money to support yourself and even save up a bit for further travels.

Check out the those countries in the International forum here on Dave's.
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