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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: We can go there but you can't come here! Reply with quote

Tons of Koreans here in the Philippines "studying" English. They pay the Filipinos absolute garbage of pay and get terrible and wrong English in return.
Why is it that so many think it's a great (economically speaking) way to study but then say to the people here that they can't teach in Korea?
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: We can go there but you can't come here! Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:

Why is it that so many think it's a great (economically speaking) way to study but then say to the people here that they can't teach in Korea?


Because they. . .

Zackback wrote:
get terrible and wrong English in return.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then why come to the Philippines to "study"?
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
Then why come to the Philippines to "study"?


Because it's cheap.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And get taught wrong English with mistakes all over the place.

I can't understand why they would do that.

Tried negotiating with a Korean mom about teaching her kids. She wanted to pay me 300 pesos an hour for two hours. I was thinking about it and then she said she wanted it for 3 hours at 900 pesos. I said that it would be good if it was 1000 pesos for 3 hours. She said it was "too high" and that she can get Filipinos for 100 an hour. I thought back to when I used to work with her several years ago and the English level of the Filipino teacher that taught her kids was questionable at best. I didn't give in ..nor did she.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
We can go there but you can't come here!


ie numerous Koreans live in the west but can't handle foreigners living here.
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there are around 1,000 New Zealanders teaching English in Korea. As of 2006 there were 30,792 Koreans living in New Zealand (total pop' between 4-5mil). The one-eyed xenophobia kind of pissed me off a bit, too.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is cheap.

End of debate really.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinks wrote:
I think there are around 1,000 New Zealanders teaching English in Korea. As of 2006 there were 30,792 Koreans living in New Zealand (total pop' between 4-5mil). The one-eyed xenophobia kind of pissed me off a bit, too.


Jinks oldboy, why would a Kiwi wanna migrate to Korea? No sheep here to sleep with. Don't even play rugby. This isn't xenophobia, ex-pat Kiwi, having good taste, are all down at Bondi.
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep up, Andrew. Kiwis in Bondi is so very 80s. There are far more Kiwis in Fitzroy than there ever were in Bondi ...
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fosterman



Joined: 16 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but 300 peso an hour is good in the phillipine for philipino.
so whats the problem?

nannys and house maids are cheap too, like 100 dollar a month!

so 300 peso is VERY good money for locals.
let those locals get a job in a store and see how much they make.

foreigners in Korea who teach at hakwons only make 700 peso an hour.

so you think 300 peso is garbage pay in PI??? I don't think so..
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is garbage. I am not a local. Have you seen the cost of things here?
I am a native speaker - well educated with many years teaching experience. They (the Filipinos) aren't native speakers.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
Then why come to the Philippines to "study"?


Because, even though the English is not up to standard, it is still English. You are basically forced to learn English during your study.

In Korea, you will be exposed to English what 4-5 hours a week. The 150+ other hours is all Korean.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oodles of fail on this thread.

Quote:
ie numerous Koreans live in the west but can't handle foreigners living here.


Has nothing to do with the topic. And what poll do you base this on?


Quote:
I think there are around 1,000 New Zealanders teaching English in Korea. As of 2006 there were 30,792 Koreans living in New Zealand (total pop' between 4-5mil). The one-eyed xenophobia kind of pissed me off a bit, too.


You do realize having a population of only 5 million means you have fewer English teachers to supply as well, right? What you think there should be 30,000 Kiwis teaching English?

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get terrible and wrong English in return.


Quote:
And get taught wrong English
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Oodles of fail on this thread.


Quote:
I think there are around 1,000 New Zealanders teaching English in Korea. As of 2006 there were 30,792 Koreans living in New Zealand (total pop' between 4-5mil). The one-eyed xenophobia kind of pissed me off a bit, too.


You do realize having a population of only 5 million means you have fewer English teachers to supply as well, right? What you think there should be 30,000 Kiwis teaching English?



No, I don't - obviously.
I think that on balance, I agree with the poster who pointed out that some people in Korea who would like to see all foreigners go "home" are conveniently oblivious to the contributions people from Korea are making in their new homes around the world.
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