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pkang0202
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 Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: Campus Massacre Prevented |
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http://tinyurl.com/6ro3y2j
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| Campus police said in a statement that 19-year-old Alexander Song of Fulton, Md., has been identified as the person who posted on a website plans for a rampage that would "kill enough people to make it to national news." The message also warned people to "stay away from the mall." Police did not elaborate. |
I'm willing to bet this guy was a social outcast, no friends, and moved to the US when he was between the age of 10-16. |
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Dave Chance
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:52 am Post subject: |
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I'd also be willing to bet he didn't feel very welcomed in US society, and that there was at least one instance where he felt humiliated (a trigger for the 'revenge' motive).
Korean teens just aren't built to impress and integrate smoothly into US society. Especially earnest, studious types. They tend to illicit the worst that US teens can dish out. |
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radcon
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| Dave Chance wrote: |
| They tend to illicit the worst that US teens can dish out. |
Actually no. They tend to stick with their own ethnic group and are largely ignored by American kids. You have no idea what you are talking about. |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| Dave Chance wrote: |
| They tend to illicit the worst that US teens can dish out. |
Actually no. They tend to stick with their own ethnic group and are largely ignored by American kids. You have no idea what you are talking about. |
what about if there are no other Koreans in the area? |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Alex Song almost went on a rampage? What did Wenger tick him off? |
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Squire
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Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The only Korean students I could imagine fitting into any group in a UK school would be the lower level kids. I can't imagine the super studious types, who actually go abroad, really integrating properly unless it's with other Asians. A boy who is particularly good at football or who plays Starcraft/Warcraft and finds friends into the same thing could be okay. I don't know about girls |
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Dave Chance
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Squire wrote: |
| The only Korean students I could imagine fitting into any group in a UK school would be the lower level kids. I can't imagine the super studious types, who actually go abroad, really integrating properly unless it's with other Asians. A boy who is particularly good at football or who plays Starcraft/Warcraft and finds friends into the same thing could be okay. I don't know about girls |
If they're pretty, they will be 'integrated' by a local who will suddenly become interested in Korean culture |
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akcrono
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| I think the point to take away from this is that ALL cultures are capable of producing bad apples. Just as we shouldn't blame "Korea" or "Koreans" for this, we shouldn't blame "soldiers" or "Americans" for the bad apples that unfortunately exist everywhere. |
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Dave Chance
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| akcrono wrote: |
| I think the point to take away from this is that ALL cultures are capable of producing bad apples. Just as we shouldn't blame "Korea" or "Koreans" for this, we shouldn't blame "soldiers" or "Americans" for the bad apples that unfortunately exist everywhere. |
America is sharply distinguished by its excessive invovlvement in military adventures around the globe. Large scale massacres of citizens in Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Nicaragua etc. can be directly attributed to US backing or direct engagement. No other country has as many military installations in so many countries.
The US military-industrial complex is one huge turd of a bad apple which taints a lot of its soldiers.
And historically the Russians have also been guilty of similar escapades, 'tho recently it's been America kicking up the dust most noticeably.
So you're right, rather than blaming individual soldiers, it'd be more accurate to blame the American government/CIA/multinationals for creating situations where bad things happen. |
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akcrono
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| Dave Chance wrote: |
| akcrono wrote: |
| I think the point to take away from this is that ALL cultures are capable of producing bad apples. Just as we shouldn't blame "Korea" or "Koreans" for this, we shouldn't blame "soldiers" or "Americans" for the bad apples that unfortunately exist everywhere. |
America is sharply distinguished by its excessive invovlvement in military adventures around the globe. Large scale massacres of citizens in Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Nicaragua etc. can be directly attributed to US backing or direct engagement. No other country has as many military installations in so many countries.
The US military-industrial complex is one huge turd of a bad apple which taints a lot of its soldiers.
And historically the Russians have also been guilty of similar escapades, 'tho recently it's been America kicking up the dust most noticeably.
So you're right, rather than blaming individual soldiers, it'd be more accurate to blame the American government/CIA/multinationals for creating situations where bad things happen. |
Or the nature of superpowers. I don't like a lot of the things the US does, but it is historically benign compared to other world superpowers. |
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Dave Chance
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:38 am Post subject: |
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| akcrono wrote: |
| Dave Chance wrote: |
| akcrono wrote: |
| I think the point to take away from this is that ALL cultures are capable of producing bad apples. Just as we shouldn't blame "Korea" or "Koreans" for this, we shouldn't blame "soldiers" or "Americans" for the bad apples that unfortunately exist everywhere. |
America is sharply distinguished by its excessive invovlvement in military adventures around the globe. Large scale massacres of citizens in Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Nicaragua etc. can be directly attributed to US backing or direct engagement. No other country has as many military installations in so many countries.
The US military-industrial complex is one huge turd of a bad apple which taints a lot of its soldiers.
And historically the Russians have also been guilty of similar escapades, 'tho recently it's been America kicking up the dust most noticeably.
So you're right, rather than blaming individual soldiers, it'd be more accurate to blame the American government/CIA/multinationals for creating situations where bad things happen. |
Or the nature of superpowers. I don't like a lot of the things the US does, but it is historically benign compared to other world superpowers. |
It is what we are led to believe... hard to confirm, 'tho, if you're sayin' the US is the most benign of them all. Certainly no other superpower has had the same capability to outright destroy and slaughter. I'll grant you that if you agree to pack it in and play along, you'll generally be able to save your hide, if not much of your character...plenty of dupes amongst Korea's elite in power today, which has helped to shape a Korean tendency to copy and follow |
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akcrono
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| I was referring to historic superpowers throughout Asia and Europe over the span of recorded history. Their human rights violations and imperialism are on a different level from that of the US. I wasn't saying the US is simply benign (in fact, I said the opposite), but historically it's been the nature of superpowers to abuse their status. It's more of a point about human nature in general. |
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Dave Chance
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| akcrono wrote: |
| I was referring to historic superpowers throughout Asia and Europe over the span of recorded history. Their human rights violations and imperialism are on a different level from that of the US. I wasn't saying the US is simply benign (in fact, I said the opposite), but historically it's been the nature of superpowers to abuse their status. It's more of a point about human nature in general. |
Okay, gotcha...yeah, human nature is rather a thorny one, isn't it...hence the value of someone like Buddha or Lao-tzu, or even Alan Watts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjIOtVkJ4kA |
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