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jammo
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I teach in a high school too. I have 15x 50 minute classes a week
as for the comment above about HS grades. I only teach grades 1 and 2 as grade 3 are too busy preparing for the entrance exam |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:10 am Post subject: Re: public schools ... easy |
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| cheezsteakwit wrote: |
| Last week, my mentor told me i'd be getting more classes this week, then, this week she told me my schedule was final. (just 8 classes) |
You mean your boss? You have a mentor who is authoritative in determining your work schedule? That's not right... |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: public schools ... easy |
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| isitts wrote: |
| cheezsteakwit wrote: |
I'm at a PS high school and my total in-class time during the week is less than 16 hours.
I've been there 2 weeks , & spend 3 days at one school, 2 days at another school and do 8 classes per school, 50 minutes per period.
Last week, my mentor told me i'd be getting more classes this week, then, this week she told me my schedule was final. (just 8 classes)
Question? - Can they hold that against me later for supposedly not following the contracted 22 hours per week in class ???
I have no problem picking up more classes & I use my time productively lesson planning & whatnot, as the English level is pretty low at both schools.
I have 4 co-teachers at the one school & 1 at the other & the 4 co-teachers pretty much leave me do my thing (2 of them aren't even in class with me) & the co-teacher at the other school mainly translates directions, etc...
Seems like things aren't too bad so far - i just don't want the 'other shoe to drop' down the road.
Thanks in advance for any insight. |
You'll likely be given more classes. Probably elective classes for the students or teaching the teachers. But I don't know. Sixteen hours is quite a bit short of 22. Guess it's harder to get enough hours in a high school with only three grades. Elementary school has a lot of grades levels to work with. |
You in a rural area? Sometimes those places are more slack. But it depends. There are some really strict to the point of dotting every "i" and crossing every "t" but usually they will leave you alone. |
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b-class rambler
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: public schools ... easy |
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| cheezsteakwit wrote: |
Question? - Can they hold that against me later for supposedly not following the contracted 22 hours per week in class ???
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Nah, don't worry about that at all.
What PS contracts nearly always say is that you will teach up to 22 classes a week (and get paid overtime should your number of classes in any one week go over the 22 threshold). So there's no problem whatsoever contractually with you teaching less than 22.
Some schools do interpret that clause as meaning they need to get your schedule up to 22 per week and if that's the case there's not much you can do about it.
Other schools try their hardest to get their NET up to the 22 mark because they fear that they might be regarded by their superiors in the district office to be underusing their NET and see them deployed elsewhere if the NET's schedule is too far below 22 lessons a week.
But there are plenty of PS NETs up and down the country whose normal schedule is less than 22 lessons per week. In fact, there are probably more such people than many of us realise because the sensible ones will keep pretty quiet about their easy schedule.  |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: public schools ... easy |
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| b-class rambler wrote: |
| cheezsteakwit wrote: |
Question? - Can they hold that against me later for supposedly not following the contracted 22 hours per week in class ???
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Nah, don't worry about that at all.
What PS contracts nearly always say is that you will teach up to 22 classes a week (and get paid overtime should your number of classes in any one week go over the 22 threshold). So there's no problem whatsoever contractually with you teaching less than 22.
Some schools do interpret that clause as meaning they need to get your schedule up to 22 per week and if that's the case there's not much you can do about it.
Other schools try their hardest to get their NET up to the 22 mark because they fear that they might be regarded by their superiors in the district office to be underusing their NET and see them deployed elsewhere if the NET's schedule is too far below 22 lessons a week.
But there are plenty of PS NETs up and down the country whose normal schedule is less than 22 lessons per week. In fact, there are probably more such people than many of us realise because the sensible ones will keep pretty quiet about their easy schedule. |
Agreed. The guy at a school close to me...teaches 12 classes a week. 3 on Mon-Tues and 2 apiece the other three days W-F. I've known a few more with similar easy schedules ranging from 13-18 classes a week. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: public schools ... easy |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| isitts wrote: |
You'll likely be given more classes. Probably elective classes for the students or teaching the teachers. But I don't know. Sixteen hours is quite a bit short of 22. Guess it's harder to get enough hours in a high school with only three grades. Elementary school has a lot of grades levels to work with. |
You in a rural area? Sometimes those places are more slack. But it depends. There are some really strict to the point of dotting every "i" and crossing every "t" but usually they will leave you alone. |
Naw, I'm in the city. And I'm two for two on schools being sticklers for giving me at least 22 hours. But as I mentioned, these were elementary schools. |
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cheezsteakwit
Joined: 12 Oct 2011
Location: There & back again.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:19 am Post subject: Re: public schools ... easy |
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| jfromtheway wrote: |
| cheezsteakwit wrote: |
| Last week, my mentor told me i'd be getting more classes this week, then, this week she told me my schedule was final. (just 8 classes) |
You mean your boss? You have a mentor who is authoritative in determining your work schedule? That's not right... |
Thanks! to those who responded. You took a load off my mind.
I'm in a small city HS.
My mentor is the one who passed the info on to me about my schedule being 'final'. & I'm assuming she got the final word from my VP or Principal.
I have 4 co-teachers but she's the one who helped me w/ the ARC , bank acct, etc.. (low person on totem pole)
She has mentioned that some teachers want to learn English (during work day) & has also asked if I'd be okay teaching a Saturday 'English club' every other Sat. morning , but I know that'd be considered OT according to the contract ... or it better be! - otherwise thats a no-go.
thanks again. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:21 am Post subject: Re: public schools ... easy |
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| cheezsteakwit wrote: |
I have 4 co-teachers but she's the one who helped me w/ the ARC , bank acct, etc.. (low person on totem pole) |
The official term is "whitey wrangler." |
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brickabrack
Joined: 17 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| But there are plenty of PS NETs up and down the country whose normal schedule is less than 22 lessons per week. In fact, there are probably more such people than many of us realise because the sensible ones will keep pretty quiet about their easy schedule. |
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thebektionary
Joined: 11 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Okay, i'm back.
I haven't had internet at my house and don't spend all my time at school on Dave's.
I WAS SIMPLY SAYING THAT PUBLIC SCHOOL IS EASY COMPARED TO A HELL HAGWON. Why is everyone here so quick to criticize?
My job consists of making two lesson plans and teaching them over and over again. No one would argue that this is difficult.
This is easier than making 7 new lesson plans a day and dealing with micro-management and constant complaints.
Also, to the guy from Bucheon:
I never complained about how I couldn't get around Bucheon. I live in an area of Bucheon where nothing is going on and I posted that on only the first or second night I was there before I knew anything about it. I was trying to see if anyone knew where I was.
Also, this thread wasn't a complaint. I was HAPPY that my job is easy.
Just because I say that my job is easy doesn't mean that I'm not putting 100% effort into it. Because it's easy, I can put MORE effort into it.
I work overtime (26 classes a week) so I don't have a lot of time to plan my classes. I spend all the free time that I do have (which is not a lot) planning them and my co-workers know that.
Why is everyone so quick to judge and criticize here?
Also, I DO have an impressive resume. Every employer that has ever looked at it has commented on how it is impressive. You are saying "after only one year at a hell hagwon"... what if I have OTHER experience that doesn't involve working in Korea? Is English teaching in Korea for multiple years the only impressive aspect of a resume? How the hell would you know? |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:29 am Post subject: |
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I was just giving you a hard time, beck.  In answer to your other post, I'm just a few stations west of you. I'll send you a pm tomorrow. |
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thebektionary
Joined: 11 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Well, I had a bad day and you didn't help.
But if that was an apology, I'm willing to accept it. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| thebektionary wrote: |
| Your comment made you sound like a jerk. I'm not really interested in meeting you. You judged me entirely too quickly on completely idiotic things. |
I�m moving this quote to this thread so mine isn�t derailed.
Anyway, up to you. But you�re saying I judged you too quickly? And my comments are making me sound like a jerk? How do you think yours come across?
This is what I wrote to you when you asked for help on your other thread:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=217724&highlight=
| isitts wrote: |
You're not as isolated as you think. It just seems that way when you aren't familiar with the area. I've only been around Sosa Station a couple times, so don't know it really well. But you are between Yeokgok and Bucheon Station.
You can take Bus 5 heading west to get to Bucheon and farther west to Jung-dong. It's a green bus. Stops fairly close to Sosa Station (about a block north of the station). Make sure your heading west from where you are. Ask the bus driver if he goes to E-mart (in Jung-dong...as there's also an E-mart in Bucheon Station). Out that way, there's a Hyundae Department Store, more things to do at night, etc.
You're also not that far from Seoul. You can take the regular train from Sosa or take an express train from Bucheon or Yeokgok (terminal station will be Yongsan for the express train, or something like Soyosan for the regular train).
When you come back from Seoul, make sure (this is line 1, the dark blue line), make sure the terminal station is Incheon (regular train back to Sosa) or Dongincheon (express train back to Yeokgok or Bucheon Station).
Taxis are going to be pretty much at every station, even Sosa. But buses and trains run until, around midnight.
Hope that helps a little. It seems you have members on this board willing to help you. But just to throw my chips into the pile, you can pm me if you need more help. I don't live all that far from Bucheon Station. |
This makes me a jerk? Ok. Other people offered help on that thread, too, but you never thanked anyone. So I poked fun at you for it here. You started these threads then never came back.
Public school is ridiculously easy but you couldn�t find time to check your email to see that people had actually responded to your threads? And why would you even take it so personally what I or any of the other strangers you�ve never met posted here? Seriously� |
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tigress
Joined: 09 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| hey thebektionary, i don't have enough posts yet to pm you so could you pm me please? i have a question about your recruiter, thanks! |
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Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| jammo wrote: |
I teach in a high school too. I have 15x 50 minute classes a week
as for the comment above about HS grades. I only teach grades 1 and 2 as grade 3 are too busy preparing for the entrance exam |
I'm in a similar situation. I teach 16 regular classes a week at a HS, but only one grade (which means one lesson plan per week). I alter the lesson so I don't go crazy doing the same thing every time. I also have two conversation class every other week, and three classes with teachers (one where no-one shows). |
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