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Watch & Share! (KONY 2012)

 
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paynedaniel



Joined: 12 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Watch & Share! (KONY 2012) Reply with quote

Watch this short documentary on Kony, the Ugandan warlord who abducts and trains children to kill, and share with as many people as possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc
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Nowhere Man



Joined: 08 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent. Thanks!
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moonhaus



Joined: 01 Feb 2012
Location: Gangneung, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this video has gone completely viral, and it gives you the warm fuzzies and everything - but seriously - it's awful.
I don't have time to go into the many reasonsf why, so I'll leave this link to one Ugandan woman rsponse to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watchfeature=player_embedded&v=KLVY5jBnD-E

and I'll also say this - US Marines and armbands are no way to help an incredibly complex, chronic situation lke this one - which has chnged drastically since this video was made.
If it makes you more curious about the actual situation enough so that you research it further, then that's awesome, but don't be fooled into thinking this hipster bullshit gives you a complete, current, or insightful understanding of the situation. And certianly don't let it convince you that joining 'the cause' is helping anyone but yourself.

(sorry to go off like this. It's nothing personal to the poster, but this thing (and it's popularity) pisses me off for so many reasons...
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comm



Joined: 22 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@moonhaus
Here is a working version of that link

Sadly, "the Communists" are no longer around to justify invasions and regime changes. But we are still able to overstate the threat of WMDs in the Middle East. Fortunately, no one remembers statements like "We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." or "It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." So since we have a new face as President and a few years behind us, we're free to use similar rhetoric once again.

But how are we going to convince the American people to increase military involvement in Africa? China is quickly advancing its business interests there and we want to dominate the continent's commodities going forward. We've gotten some degree of military buildup under the American people's radar using the Islamic extremist rhetoric, but a greater military presence is required to dominate the region's resources.

Therefore, this office will be relying on sympathy-based techniques such as those used during the first Gulf War (see Nayirah. To this end, several soon-to-be notorious figures are available to present to the public.
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cwflaneur



Joined: 04 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crappy video. No analysis, no insight, just feel-good propaganda from a puppet org funded by Washington. I'd heard of Kony and the LRA long before this video came out. The video says he has 30,000 children in his army, while sources that are not funded by the American government say Kony's outfit is depleted and down to a few hundred. Kony is probably not even in Uganda anymore, the vid neglects to mention that. And guess what natural substance derived from Cretaceous-era fossils has recently been found in Uganda? (no prize for correct answers...) The group that created this video supports the SPLA and the Ugandan government which have both been involved in the use of child soldiers.

The video is worthless from beginning to end. It would be great to have a bastard like Kony put in the dock in the Hague - maybe even if it involved a full-scale boots on the ground American mission, which this propaganda outfit supports despite deceptively not talking about in the video - but only if his trial would happen right after that of Museveni, the current Ugandan president, and also only if it wasn't a cynical and deceptive pretext for business-as-usual geopolitical power games. Fortunately, I'm skeptical about the impact the video will have - the vast majority of the sheeple won't remember it much longer than the 15 minutes it stays in the spotlight.

Lastly, I would like to see a viral campaign to end the use of air quotes.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a bunch of utter hogwash. I don't even want to get into how much nonsense this is and how much it actually makes the problem worse.

People who pass this around Facebook are idiots.
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cwflaneur



Joined: 04 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just got a little more... erm, interesting:

Invisible Children co-founder detained by police;

Quote:
Updated 5:50 p.m. ET: SAN DIEGO � A co-founder of Invisible Children, the group behind the �Kony 2012� video on alleged atrocities by an African warlord, was detained after witnesses reported a man masturbating and acting strangely, NBCSanDiego.com reported.


Good grief
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched it, and thought it was quite impressively narrated and put together, and was initially quite inspired by it. Of course I soon after read the negative opinions of it, that it wasn't doing much good, that Kony was old news and no longer operates in Uganda etc. Nonetheless, I thought it certainly couldn't do any harm, that if it helped bring justice to some low life warlord that has had it coming for a very long time, then it was all for the good.

Just in the last few days however, I have started noticing facebook acquaintances posting really nasty posters about the guy who made it, initially accusing him of claiming he is saving Africa (which he doesn't by any means) moving on to insinuating that he's a paedophile etc - hatred wayy beyond anything the guy deserves, and now he's been caught running around naked in San Diego having gone loopy (no charges brought), its turned into a a total gloat-fest of hatred for the guy. I am absolutely dumbfounded. Why???

In my wisdom I'm getting that it's a bit of jealousy plus something else, indications of this jealously having something to do with him being stereotyped as a hipster? If anyone could enlighten me, I'd be extremely grateful.
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visitorq



Joined: 11 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uganda, AFRICOM, and the Kony Boogeyman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpOO1J4zapw

Good summary.
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