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GreatUnderachiever
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 Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:58 am Post subject: people entering an MA TESOL on an unrelated degree? |
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How common is this?
Say I study BA Business Studies what would I need to get on an MA TESOL ? I assume few years experience and a CELTA make a good start... |
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jinks
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Some MA TESOL programmes require 2 years or X hours EFL/ESL teaching experience, even for candidates with related degrees. I would say that classroom experience + CELTA + a good 'other major' degree + the cash to pay tuition means you would be accepted on to a good MA programme. |
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GreatUnderachiever
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| jinks wrote: |
| Some MA TESOL programmes require 2 years or X hours EFL/ESL teaching experience, even for candidates with related degrees. I would say that classroom experience + CELTA + a good 'other major' degree + the cash to pay tuition means you would be accepted on to a good MA programme. |
cool. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| A CELTA is not at all necessary for entering a masters degree program. |
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GreatUnderachiever
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| A CELTA is not at all necessary for entering a masters degree program. |
Ok, but the point the other guy was making that if you don't have a related degree then an UNrelated degree + CELTA could get you on to a program.
or do you think the CELTA makes no difference?? In which case the only choice for good MATESOL program is to make sure you have a degree with some English Language related content... |
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DingusKhan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Admissions requirements vary by school. Of the schools I looked at, one wanted me to have at least four English undergraduate classes at the senior level. Another said I needed an equivalent of an English undergrad minor (6 classes beyond standard composition). Some schools would admit me into their graduate program on a provisional level if I didn't meet their prerequisites.
I've only looked at American schools, but I didn't come across any that let you use a CELTA in lieu of the prerequisites (or even mentioned a CELTA for that matter).
Something else that came up frequently was schools wanting GRE scores, letters of recommendation, and a writing sample. |
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GreatUnderachiever
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| DingusKhan wrote: |
I've only looked at American schools, but I didn't come across any that let you use a CELTA in lieu of the prerequisites (or even mentioned a CELTA for that matter).
Something else that came up frequently was schools wanting GRE scores, letters of recommendation, and a writing sample. |
I don't know about the American system but the normal I see on a British program is
Good relevant first degree (2:1 or above) and 2 years experience. |
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GreatUnderachiever
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Also, an MA TESOL costs quite a bit of money - you probably are not going to make that money back in Korea (maybe in the middle east) but the extra paid vacation jobs that korean unis offer maybe worth it .  |
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Charlie Bourque
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| GreatUnderachiever wrote: |
| Also, an MA TESOL costs quite a bit of money - you probably are not going to make that money back in Korea (maybe in the middle east) but the extra paid vacation jobs that korean unis offer maybe worth it . |
Bingo.
I have a B.A. Applied Linguistics, and I'm treating TESL as a career, so an MA TESOL would be ideal for upward mobility. The MA TESOL will help me land a cushy university job, where I can build up experience and take on some work/studies on the side. |
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cheolsu
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| How would you not make the money back in Korea? If you go from a public school job paying 2.0 to a university job paying even 2.5, you'll make back the cost of a $20,000 MA in about 4 years. |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| GreatUnderachiever wrote: |
| Also, an MA TESOL costs quite a bit of money - you probably are not going to make that money back in Korea (maybe in the middle east) but the extra paid vacation jobs that korean unis offer maybe worth it . |
Sorry, but this is the typical rhetoric of one who has neither a graduate degree or a university job.
It simply isn't true; the benefits of good university positions are lucrative enough on their own (without all of the additional opportunities being employed by a top-tier university offers) to both justify and return the cost of a graduate degree.
The thing I would add to this thread is that there is no need to hem yourself in with a TESOL-specific education degree. |
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cheolsu
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| What graduate degrees in education offer more versatility? |
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Carbon
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| cheolsu wrote: |
| What graduate degrees in education offer more versatility? |
M.Ed with a specialty outside TESOL. 
You don't need a TESOL-specialization to get a top job in Korea, and if you take it back home, your experience would qualify you for a TESOL-related position, if you were to try to get one. Doing, for example, adult education, instructional design or curriculum and instruction as a specialty would offer more options, IMO. This is just opinion, but it makes sense. Teaching English (and by extension a TESOL degree) is not really respected in the West. I stayed away from TESOL when I did my M.Ed for that reason. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| No one seems to take into account that many universities will pay you for publishing. |
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GreatUnderachiever
Joined: 08 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| No one seems to take into account that many universities will pay you for publishing. |
oh I didn't know that, how much do they pay? |
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