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sojusucks
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highstreet
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| I've never been to a costco here in SK, they look much smaller than the ones I've been to in the US. Probably why it can get crowded. |
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maximmm
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| I don't see how Costco is at fault. Every Emart/Homeplus is equally congested on weekends. If you build Costco double the regular size, it will still probably get congested during weekends. Korea is a densely populated country and people often have no chance to go shopping on days other than Saturday/Sunday. Let's burn Costco?! |
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motiontodismiss
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Paying people to emigrate sounds like a really good idea to me 
Korea's not densely populated, it's overpopulated. The population needs to go down to a size its national territory can sustain, something like 10 million, and considering 70% of Korea's contiguous territories are not arable or livable, probably more like 5 million. As for countries with small populations not living well, Qatar's population is less than 2 million yet their GDP per capita is $103k. Switzerland's population is ~7 million and their GDP per capita is $67k, and the Swiss especially enjoy a much higher quality of life than Koreans. |
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brier
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Yay for CostCo! |
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It think that was the yongdongpo branch. It is amazing how crowded it gets on a Sunday afternoon. Two Sundays ago, it got to the point that you couldn't shop, you were stuck in cart gridlock. Jr. didn't like that too much. |
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pkang0202
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Costco could double the number of stores in Seoul and still do well. The problem is where to put the stores. Also, a Costco is a logistical nightmare with regards to parking.
The line of cars waiting to enter the parking deck is a sight to see. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| motiontodismiss wrote: |
Paying people to emigrate sounds like a really good idea to me
Korea's not densely populated, it's overpopulated. The population needs to go down to a size its national territory can sustain, something like 10 million, and considering 70% of Korea's contiguous territories are not arable or livable, probably more like 5 million. As for countries with small populations not living well, Qatar's population is less than 2 million yet their GDP per capita is $103k. Switzerland's population is ~7 million and their GDP per capita is $67k, and the Swiss especially enjoy a much higher quality of life than Koreans. |
And Qatar has oil and Zurich is a financial hub. Countries with small populations need to have something to offer the rest of the world in order to live well. |
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maximmm
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| motiontodismiss wrote: |
Paying people to emigrate sounds like a really good idea to me
Korea's not densely populated, it's overpopulated. The population needs to go down to a size its national territory can sustain, something like 10 million, and considering 70% of Korea's contiguous territories are not arable or livable, probably more like 5 million. As for countries with small populations not living well, Qatar's population is less than 2 million yet their GDP per capita is $103k. Switzerland's population is ~7 million and their GDP per capita is $67k, and the Swiss especially enjoy a much higher quality of life than Koreans. |
I don't see what led you to believe that I was in some way implying that people in smaller nations do not live well. Densely populated/overpopulated = pretty much the same thing. Considering just how densely populated Korea is at the moment, the living conditions here are actually not half bad. |
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Joe Boxer
Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| And Qatar has oil and Zurich is a financial hub. Countries with small populations need to have something to offer the rest of the world in order to live well. |
Qatar has oil, but Korea has K-pop! |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| maximmm wrote: |
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Paying people to emigrate sounds like a really good idea to me
Korea's not densely populated, it's overpopulated. The population needs to go down to a size its national territory can sustain, something like 10 million, and considering 70% of Korea's contiguous territories are not arable or livable, probably more like 5 million. As for countries with small populations not living well, Qatar's population is less than 2 million yet their GDP per capita is $103k. Switzerland's population is ~7 million and their GDP per capita is $67k, and the Swiss especially enjoy a much higher quality of life than Koreans. |
I don't see what led you to believe that I was in some way implying that people in smaller nations do not live well. Densely populated/overpopulated = pretty much the same thing. Considering just how densely populated Korea is at the moment, the living conditions here are actually not half bad. |
You never did, but the Korean government always does with their "make babies" campaign. It's great that this campaign's failed miserably, as nobody around me wants to have children (yes, I'm aware that this group is not an accurate sample of the entire population). There are too many people in this country already, especially old people.
IMO "densely populated" implies sustainability. "Overpopulation" implies that the population is unsustainable and MUST go down. Hence my particular choice of words. And given that Korea imports 75% of it's food supply, Korea IS overpopulated. |
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pkang0202
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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IMO "densely populated" implies sustainability. "Overpopulation" implies that the population is unsustainable and MUST go down. Hence my particular choice of words. And given that Korea imports 75% of it's food supply, Korea IS overpopulated. |
From an economic standpoint, Korea needs to have MORE babies. Mainly due to aging population of Korea, the fact people are living longer, and national pension and universal healthcare.
The burden will be great for the next generation, and if there aren't more babies, then the roof is going to come down on everything. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| motiontodismiss wrote: |
IMO "densely populated" implies sustainability. "Overpopulation" implies that the population is unsustainable and MUST go down. Hence my particular choice of words. And given that Korea imports 75% of it's food supply, Korea IS overpopulated. |
From an economic standpoint, Korea needs to have MORE babies. Mainly due to aging population of Korea, the fact people are living longer, and national pension and universal healthcare.
The burden will be great for the next generation, and if there aren't more babies, then the roof is going to come down on everything. |
More working-age able-bodied people, fewer people overall. It's going to be painful but if Korea doesn't bring its population down, the entire economy's probably going to collapse. It's not 1980 anymore, Korea needs to have fewer people with a much higher value-added. I'm all for building a resort on an abandoned island somewhere in international waters and relocating retirees.
That said, I refuse to get married or have children in this country until the corruption's cleaned up, public education improves, the air in Seoul is breathable again, and general quality of life improves. Or until I relocate to the western world on a permanent basis. |
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toadkillerdog
Joined: 11 Nov 2009
Location: Daejeon. ROK
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| The congestion would also be helped if Koreans actually knew how to operate things that moved (shopping carts, elevators, cars, etc...) or had any spacial awareness. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| The congestion would also be helped if Koreans actually knew how to operate things that moved (shopping carts, elevators, cars, etc...) or had any spacial awareness. |
That and if they knew how to actually line up and take turns. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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They don't have enough Costcos in Korea. Do you think they'll spread to other cities? I know Busan has one. Gwangju still doesn't. I know they also have one in Ilsan. I enjoyed going to the one in Ilsan when I lived there.
Initially, it wasn't so packed, but Costco started getting really packed in Ilsan, but not in an insane way, generally. It's best not to shop in Korea on a Sunday. I try to go during the week. |
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